7770 CF vs 7870

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I would not say that entirely, the GTX 660ti will likely cost $300-330 for reference and 350-380 for OC designs while the 7870 will be sub $300. Also the benches are done on the old drivers and unmodded GCN chips, AMD have released GHZ edition bios with new cards on the 7970/7950/7870 models, Toms benched the new 7970 GE with catalyst 12.7 and the gains were so high that the 7970 and the 680 are dead heats, this will likely see the 7950 match the 670 and in turn the 7870 match the 660ti, added to this bonus AMD vanilla cards can be flashed with the new GHZ edition bios for the respective models, the reclockings alone account for around 10% pefromance gains, 12.7 sees more gains on top of that.

It is a option but the 660ti is going to be out priced at that price point.
 
Don't start with flashing BIOS.. not unless you want to brick your card.

Link for the benchmark that was so big? The only benchmark I've saw with GTX 660 Ti was the one above, and in that GTX 660 Ti just crushed HD 7870, and no mild overclock will change that.

Plus, it will not cost $350 :). You're looking at $299.

Lastly, you get nice bonuses together with GTX 660 Ti: Adaptive Vsync, PhysX, FXAA, TXAA, support for 3 monitors without any sort of expensive adapters.
 
These cards are designed to address the fact that AMD's vanilla cards were designed to trump VLIW4 and Fermi, which it did comprehensively, the issue was by releasing early they showed there hand and in turn Nvidia have aggressively clocked all GK's well above the Ghz Barrier, even the AMD clock bumps are not as aggressive but it is fact that performance yields with drivers have seen significant performance improvements.

Yes I said $300 for a basic reference 660ti, for the Twin Frozrs and windforces, DUII's you are looking at $50 extra easy. The 7870 GE with Sapphire cooling solutions costs well bellow $300, if you factor the 660ti and 7870 will perfrom within margin of error the 660ti is just Nvidia trying to milk the market, problem is you don't need a 660ti when a 7850 can handle any single monitor setup maxed.

At the end of the day whether the OP decides on a 7870/7950($330) or 660ti they will all max out with ease, how do I know this my 6970's do so there we have it overkill or buy to budget??????
 
so all i have to do is wait? i mean i want to spend my 330 euros for the best i can get. I can get a 7870 OC from sappire. If i need less to get a twin frozrs 660 Ti from MSI and get more performance then thats it.
 
ok i decided to go for the 7870 but my question is gigabyte oc windforce 3x or MSI twin frozr. The MSI is louder and less OCed but i dont know if gigabyte is as good as MSI
 
I don't like the Gigabyte cards as they have Blue PCB's which looks awkward for blending, I prefer the Red or Black PCB's, the MSI twinfrozr III's are good cards, that said the Gigabyte Windforce III is also fantastic.
 



red would look really odd on a asus z77 deluxe.
 
I said prefer and that is for colour coding, but that is user preference, I have a ROG so yes Red/black, he has a Asus Deluxe with squeemish shades of blue so the Gigabyte may code well, that said if you see the Blueness of that PCB, it could make Jack the Rippers stomach churn.
 
The 660ti is a FPS pusher but flimsy on compute power, TH now has the review and at the end of the day the 7870 and the 7950 came out rosy, needless to say that AMD have new bios's for all Tahiti XT and Pro soon with the Pitcairn XT and Pro's which sees massive performance boosts for free. If Nvidia don't drop the price to $250 this card is going to take a monumental beating by the 7870.

 
Basically yes, The nvidia cards are all memory interface limited, when CPU clocks are insane its average and high FPS beat AMD but almost always have lower lowest FPS scores, when it comes to direct compute a GTX 680 will barely hang with a 1900XT and thats where radeons show massive yields. Also consider that AMD cards are all significantly lower clocked than all the 1ghz + keplers but all have much higher overclock bins than nvidia, its the great leveler, GCN was sandbagged enough to see what Nvidia were going to give. Already TH anand have shown that the new 7970 GE's beat the 680, AMD is working on the rest now.


Yes wait for the 7870's price to level out, if it drops to $270ish then its a great card, highend performance at mainstream prices. Alternatively the HD 7950 is expected to fall to the $330 at that price point its an attractive card.
 
That is probably the vanilla 7870 with a 860mhz core clock plays the 1050mhz on the 660ti, Also 1300mhz memory speed plays 1500mhz. The NV is exactly what it is an thats a FPS rendering machine, but all round the 7870 is close enough, its cheaper what with a ASUS DUII costing $330 its well cheaper for high end performance. AMD destroys Nvidia in GPGPU and compute power where games require more compute the AMD cards take center. In a years time that 192bit interface will gimp that card while the 7870 will look rosier than the day it came out.

Ultimately:

AMD: Balanced performance(render/compute), immense overclocking headroom, great eyefinity and multi card performance, lower cost, bios updates and maturing drivers constantly give good gains.

Nvidia: High rendering speeds, Fast core clocks, low power, Physx, 3D, Adaptive VSync
 
I will quote something i read long ago Mac vs PC. Microsoft vs Google. Intel vs AMD. There's no shortage of monumental rivalries in the tech industry. But the royal rumble between ATI and Nvidia for dominance of 3D graphics is one of the roughest of the lot.

The contest is really AMD vs Nvidia. After all, AMD snapped up Canadian graphics outfit ATI back in 2006.

More importantly, however you slice it the histories of ATI and Nvidia have been very closely intertwined. Both started out as specialists in PC graphics and have since branched out into non-PC platforms such as games consoles, mobile devices and set-top boxes.

I won't get into who is better not going to start a flame war lol i would just say Depending on which games you intend to play, one will perform better than the other.
 
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