$800USD gaming pc (South Africa)

[Chiefomatic]

Approximate Purchase Date: Withing 1-2 weeks

Budget Range: <R11000 (about $800 USD)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, browsing, very little coding, rendering, potential streaming definitely not priority

Parts Not Required: Optical Drive, Harddrives, Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

Case: Coolermaster Haf X


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.wootware.co.za ; www.Evetech.co.za ; www.landmarkpc.co.za www.takealot.com

Country: South Africa

Parts Preferences: Really don't care about brands. Just want the best for my price range.

Overclocking: Maybe, within safety, Very light.

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Since I live in South Africa product prcing are somewhat diffrent than some other countries.

I have the following choices so far.

Wootware:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB EX OC Video Card

Evetech: (They sell what they call upgrade bundles which includes CPU, RAM and Mobo)

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 OC OVERCLOCKED Edition 6GB (Should get stock soon)

I don't mind buying from different shops.

If think of anything else I would edit this post.

Thank you so much in advance. I am by no means a hardware expert so would love to know what the experts have to say.

 

[Chugalug_]

Edited and updated, I must admit I forgot about it.

 

[Lutfij]

Again with the mATX case and ATX motherboard?!

 

[Chugalug_]

Thought I put in the 100R.
Give it a break, you can tell people in a nicer way mate, getting a really unpleasant tone from your posts.

 

[Lutfij]

Mate, we're dealing with someone else's money here, making a mistake like that isn't canny.

 

[Chugalug_]

Easily fixed by saying something like "You've put the 88R in with an ATX motherboard, might want to change that".
Fixed now, don't worry.
Was never given an initial notice, 'again' is a bit unnecessary, just copied the links over and changed a few bits, that's all.

 

[Lutfij]

"You've put the 88R in with an ATX motherboard, might want to change that"

Stated here.

 

[Chugalug_]

Ah, I see.
Thanks, skimmed it, didn't pick it up.
Doesn't matter since he already has a case, I put it there as an option anyway.

 

[madmatt30]

I'm on mobile , I cannot read the whole thread with quotes as its making my eyes bleed :-/

My advice
Stick with the ryzen 1600 - its by far the best CPU available at it's pricepoint ,
The 1500x isn't good value comparitively .
The 1400 is good value but needs to be overclocked fairly substantially & the stealth cooler isn't really good enough for that.

The Asus prime board is fine , you'll run just about any ram at 2666 on then latest bios update now.
People keep droning on about ram speeds , 2666 1t is absolutely fast enough , 3000/3200mhz 'may' get you an extra 10fps in some instances.
When your already hitting 90fps + its unimportant IMO.
Buy a 16gb kit from the word go, I'd take 16gb 2400 over 8gb 3000/3200 if they were the choices I had.

580 vs 1060 ? No favouritism here , its about bang for buck , from where Im looking the RX cards are overpriced badly in SA , THE GALAX 1060 is very very well priced , stick with it.Galax cards are very very good.

If you have to keep one PSU keep the corsair vs , its better than the Hec built thunder.

 

[Chugalug_]

The 1060 3GB is available for the equivalent of $50 USD less than the RX 580, I think for that little bit more giving you equivalent to 1060 6GB performance is worth it at the price point, as it doesn't quiet let you get 16GB of RAM going for the 1060.

 

[madmatt30]

To me no matter where he buys from it's just over budget.
As Chugalug says , getting a slightly cheaper 4gb 580 would do the job.
The 1060 3gb is not a card I'd buy personally though , it is good value but 2 years down the line you may find the performance lacking.

 

[Chugalug_]

Final list.
16GB DDR4, RX 580, Ryzen 1600, B350 Plus motherbard.

http://www.wootware.co.za/amd-ryzen-5-1600-hex-core-3-2ghz-3-6ghz-turbo-socket-am4-desktop-cpu.html
http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f4-2400c15d-16gvs-ripjaws-16gb-2-x8gb-ddr4-2400mhz-cl15-1-20v-desktop-memory.html
http://www.wootware.co.za/corsair-cp-9020102-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze-certified-semi-modular-desktop-power-supply.html
http://www.wootware.co.za/gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-gaming-gv-rx580gaming-4gd-4gb-gddr5-256-bit-pci-e-3-0-desktop-graphics-card.html
http://www.wootware.co.za/asus-prime-b350-plus-amd-ryzen-socket-am4-atx-desktop-motherboard.html

 

[Lucky_SLS]

well u can always overclock ur ram to higher frequencies. the timings have to be relaxed a bit. 3000 mhz is attainable. no difficulty there. dunno if ur budget is after selling ur PSU and other components or before it. corsair cx550m is also good.

 

[madmatt30]

https://www.evetech.co.za/PC-Hardware/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16gb-gray-2400mhz-ddr4-ram-1953.aspx

Currently have that running at 2666 1t on an asrock b350 board , it also did 2933 2t but with a lot of extra voltage.
I would not take that as an absolute guarantee though.
Bear in mind there is no 2800 or 3000 memory bus speed on ryzen.
Its 2400,2666,2933 or 3200.

I would honestly buy 2666 in the first place , its the best priced option.

 

[Chiefomatic]

What do you mean exactly? Video, photo or music? How light are we talking about?

By down scaling, I meant to ask if you'd like to build a smaller system...?

1) Sorry forgot to change that during my drafts. I might do some youtube videos now and then and MIGHT try streaming if my internet improves, but gaming is still my #1 priority.

2) Not really looking to downscale since I love the big Haf X I have now

Do we need to factor in shipping+VAT charges? Are those included in the price tag shown ff the sites you've linked? I ask since the prices of the parts on Landmark PC are inclusive of VAT albeit some parts are more expensive than Wootware. Which leads to wonder if the prices on Wootware are inclusive of VAT?

All prices on Wootware are VAT inclusive. Shipping will be free since I can collect at the offices, if they don't include free shipping. They are on average cheaper than landmarkpc.

That being said, here's my suggestion:
http://www.wootware.co.za/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-hex-core-3-... -R3,999
http://www.wootware.co.za/msi-b350-tomahawk-amd-ryzen-s... - R2,499
http://www.wootware.co.za/g-skill-f4-3200c16d-16gtzb-tr... - R2,199
http://www.wootware.co.za/evga-210-gq-0650-v1-650w-80-p... - R2,199
http://www.wootware.co.za/galax-geforce-gtx-1060-exoc-6... - R4,199
^ Yes that is over your budget for a system that should end up lasting a good 3-4 years if you maintain the same heading, then it's worth the money + the cost of parts in your region doesn't exactly allow you to swap out parts ever so often thus the need to go with what is the most your budget will allow.

That works out @ R13126, which is above my pricelist. So I had this in mind let me know if this is OK:

Ryzen 5 1600 @R3499
Asus prime b350- plus @R1871
Galax GTX 1060 EX OC @R4199
G.Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR4 3200mhz 1.35v black @R1367
EVGA 210-GQ-0650-V1 650W @R1492 (Might be an issue to get this since they don't currently have stock.)

Total:R12 426

I'll keep both these build in mind.

Thanks so much for the effort <3

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ the corsair cx550m is in stock

 

[madmatt30]

Cx550m - 1235


http://www.wootware.co.za/corsair-cp-9020102-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze-certified-semi-modular-desktop-power-supply.html

& honestly take the 16gb gskill 2666 I pictured earlier.

Its only 500 more than the 8gb of 3200 which will likely run at 2666 anyway.

 

[Chiefomatic]

^ the corsair cx550m is in stock

Thanks! So many posts to respond to

I cannot tell everyone how much I appreciate all this help. Great community. Thanks to everyone that have posted. I'll update my above post with latest builds.

I am still open to other ideas.

As an update I sold my VS650 and have a buyer for my other PSU. So I'll have a look if I can up my budget, but might not happen.

 

[Chiefomatic]

Cx550m - 1235


http://www.wootware.co.za/corsair-cp-9020102-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze-certified-semi-modular-desktop-power-supply.html

& honestly take the 16gb gskill 2666 I pictured earlier.

Its only 500 more than the 8gb of 3200 which will likely run at 2666 anyway.

Thanks man! Will keep this in mind <3

Edit: I think you guys are all NA based? I am on GMT+2 which is about 9 or so hours ahead of you guys. So I'll try my best to stay up later. Getting old

 

[Lucky_SLS]

like matt said, u can oc ur ram to 2933 get the 16gb

 

[Chugalug_]

Cx550m - 1235


http://www.wootware.co.za/corsair-cp-9020102-cx550m-550w-80-plus-bronze-certified-semi-modular-desktop-power-supply.html

& honestly take the 16gb gskill 2666 I pictured earlier.

Its only 500 more than the 8gb of 3200 which will likely run at 2666 anyway.

Thanks man! Will keep this in mind <3

Edit: I think you guys are all NA based? I am on GMT+2 which is about 9 or so hours ahead of you guys. So I'll try my best to stay up later. Getting old

I'm in Australia, but the majority are from the US.

 

[madmatt30]

Not me - I'm UK ;-)

 

[Lucky_SLS]

India here

 

[madmatt30]

Multicultural as it should be

Not to sound derogatory to our american members but you will generally get a better understanding of pricing & budget from people outside the USA.

The US dollar seems to be a global comparison currency & a lot of USA members will generally assume the price of components comparatively will be in line.

As one of the 'outsiders' I known it's not.
Same as Lucky above , India has it far far worse on component choice & pricing than 95% of the rest of the world.
Pricing on the rx cards in india is just nonsensical generally

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ thats y i recommend newegg import over amazon for core components

 

[madmatt30]

Can't do newegg in the UK , prices are great then you get hit with +40% tax & import duty :-/

Once we're out of the European Union proper its going to get worse for us as that'll get added onto European purchases too :-/

Luckily small island + abundance of online retailers = competition & decent prices overall .
Not as cheap as the USA still but manageable.