I would say spend the extra $20-30 (30-40 CAN??) dollars and get an 8600 gt. Much better than the 8500, still DX10 (not that I put much stock in that), great video decoding, and performs almost as well as the DX9 cards in that price range. Or, and this is the best option, wait for ATI's cards and mow some lawns. Save some cash, see which is faster, let competion drive down prices and buy a better card. 8800 gts or it's ATI counterpart would serve you much better than jumping the gun on a cheap card that wont allow you to play games all that well. I think $100+ for a card that doesn't play anything well is a total waste.