8600 vs 2600x

[mp3man24]

Should I go with ryzen or intel. Thye are about the same price. I will be gaming with a 1070. I have the Intel build list here: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FyxvWD
What d you guys think

 

[btmedic04]

The NDA for the ryzen 2xxx series tomorrow. My advice is wait until then to see how the 2600x performs

 

[InvalidError]

Based on leaks, they should perform about the same for strictly gaming in current games. Long-term though, the 2600 may gain a significant lead in the future due to having SMT. SMT would also be handy if you do any amount of non-trivial multi-tasking while gaming.

As medic wrote, only a few more days to go before the review embargoes drop and the benchmark floodgates bust open. Unless your PC exploded and you need a new PC on an emergency basis because your master thesis is due next Monday, it makes little sense to buy before seeing the reviews if you aren't already committed to buying Intel.

 

[mp3man24]

Based on leaks, they should perform about the same for strictly gaming in current games. Long-term though, the 2600 may gain a significant lead in the future due to having SMT. SMT would also be handy if you do any amount of non-trivial multi-tasking while gaming.

As medic wrote, only a few more days to go before the review embargoes drop and the benchmark floodgates bust open. Unless your PC exploded and you need a new PC on an emergency basis because your master thesis is due next Monday, it makes little sense to buy before seeing the reviews if you aren't already committed to buying Intel.

well i looked and with everything they are about the same price so i need a new pc as soon as possible. I have a bull dozer with a 1070, but i may wait.

 

[10tacle]

Yep hold out for the reviews tomorrow of Ryzen 2. But I don't think it will be much of a boost in performance anymore than each new tick/tock of Intel's chips. The risk in buying a new series of chips is that they may have bugs to be worked out like Ryzen 1's motherboards and memory problems (which still aren't entirely ironed out last I heard). Intel > Ryzen for gaming but only if you are running a 120-144Hz 1080p resolution monitor. If you are running a 1440p monitor the difference between the 8600 and 1600x is nominal.

What monitor are you running or plan on running?

 

[mp3man24]

Yep hold out for the reviews tomorrow of Ryzen 2. But I don't think it will be much of a boost in performance anymore than each new tick/tock of Intel's chips. The risk in buying a new series of chips is that they may have bugs to be worked out like Ryzen 1's motherboards and memory problems (which still aren't entirely ironed out last I heard). Intel > Ryzen for gaming but only if you are running a 120-144Hz 1080p resolution. If you are running say a 60Hz 1440p monitor the difference between the 8600 and 1600x is nominal.

What monitor are you running or plan on running?

2 dual moniters recording/streaming 60 hz 1080p

 

[10tacle]

What monitor are you running or plan on running?

2 dual moniters recording/streaming 60 hz 1080p[/quotemsg]

Ooooh streaming. Well Ryzen 1600/x is better for gaming + streaming at the same time with it's 12 threads. The i5 does not does not have hyperthreading (SMT).

 

[InvalidError]

2 dual moniters recording/streaming 60 hz 1080p

If you are going to do stream recording, then the 2600(X) is going to give you considerably more performance headroom to accommodate the extra video processing overhead. On the Intel side, you would ideally be looking at the i7-8700(k) for that.

 

[btmedic04]

yep, wait the extra day and go with the ryzen 2600x. Also, change out that power supply for a better manufacturer. Seasonic and corsair are my go to psu's when building computers for myself, family and friends

 

[InvalidError]

Seasonic and corsair are my go to psu's when building computers for myself, family and friends

Need to exclude VS-anything and CX 430/500/600(M) from the Corsair list - the old poor quality models.

 

[10tacle]

and CX 430/500/600(M) from the Corsair list - the old poor quality models.

Yeah those are the green labeled ones. The newer version of the CX/M line is grey labeled and they are 450/550/650W accordingly. You can throw in the 750W green label version as well (all made by Channel Well). While still far from high quality they get the job done much better than their predecessors.

 

[mp3man24]

I mean stream videos not recording streaming. I don't know why I put recording

 

[InvalidError]

I mean stream videos not recording streaming. I don't know why I put recording

Because it is what all the cool kids do with their computer these days?

In that case, the i5-8600 would be fine if you don't want to wait a for 2600(X)/470 reviews and possibly change your mind about the i5.

 

[mp3man24]

I think ill go with ryzen but I would need to get a boot kit from amd to be able to run it with the b350 boards

 

[InvalidError]

I think ill go with ryzen but I would need to get a boot kit from amd to be able to run it with the b350 boards

Why a b350? Wait for the b470 boards which will be designed for Ryzen 2 from the start and support Ryzen 2's more aggressive power/boost management.

 

[mp3man24]

when will they come out

 

[mp3man24]

is dis better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9NDRkd

 

[InvalidError]

when will they come out

Hopefully soon.

Another option instead of ordering AMD's loaner CPU would be buying a motherboard from a local shop and having it update the BIOS in-store.

 

[mp3man24]

I got a better one with x470 and 2600x

 

[InvalidError]

I got a better one with x470 and 2600x

That works too when you don't mind the extra cost or need the few extra features.