8700 or 1600/1700?

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Well, hello everyone.

I've been running a 2500k for years now, since 2012 I think. Its been running for thousands of hours overclocked and I'm starting to get occasional bluescreens that could only really be caused by either my ram or my CPU and since I switched Ram at a point and it didn't help I figured the CPU is slowly giving in to old age, or the board.

Anyways since I'm running a gtx 1080 I'm really bottlenecked in certain games like Wildlands and GTA5 where my CPU usage is up at 100% and my GPU is chilling at 50%+, and thats at a base clock of 4.6 ghz.

So, time to upgrade I guess.

I mostly use my PC for gaming, as mentioned before, with a gtx 1080. On a 144hz monitor with gsync, so my first thought is intel would be the better way to go since I read that those are better for higher framerates in gaming, especially when using high refresh rate monitors so they are ideally utilized.

I also do some light video editing and encoding here and there, usually 1080p or 1440p, no 4k, so I would very much like to gain the hyperthreaded performance of an i7 rather than an i5. The obvious contenders on this topic would be the Ryzen 1600 and 1700.

From everything I read so far, you don't exactly need a K version with 8th gen intel CPUs since the non-k ones turbo high enough for most users, this true?

If so, my choice would sort of lean towards an i7 8700 (non-k). A ryzen 1600 would have a massive price advantage especially since the boards seem to be cheaper, but if memory serves right, for ryzen you basically need memory running at as high a clockrate as possible and ideally samsung b-die ones which are really expensive. So I'm not sure about ryzen in general.

What is the general consensus for a person doing high refreshrate gaming and video editing, whats the best CPU for me and also which RAM and Board should I go for?

Or should I wait a tad longer for better budget boards for the i7 since I read in a few places that there seem to be boards on their way.
 
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I second the K edition suggestion.

I'm not sure where you live due to € symbol so I input Germany as the country. You'd have to check the exchange rate for your country if otherwise, but here's something for you to look at.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€326.94 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€247.40 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€192.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €767.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker...
I'd ask you to get the K since it'd help you hold off the upgrade problem much like you've kept the upgrade bug off with your overclock(and careful computing). If you're gaming+streaming then you would benefit from the Ryzen's Higher end CPU's.

I'm curious, what sort of a budget are we looking at?
Might want to read through this thread and update your thread with the necessary information.
 


Budget is kind of relative, I can spend alot, I would however rather not spend over 800€ for CPU, mainboard and RAM combined. Thats one of my problems, I'm not sure where my sweetspot is.
 
I second the K edition suggestion.

I'm not sure where you live due to € symbol so I input Germany as the country. You'd have to check the exchange rate for your country if otherwise, but here's something for you to look at.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (€326.94 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€247.40 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€192.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €767.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-22 14:06 CET+0100

edit: forgot to update motherboard
 
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250 for a mainboard? Maybe I'm really out of touch with todays prices but is that considered normal nowadays? Last mainboard I bought was back in 2012 and it was a good one which back then only cost like 80€ or so.

In a perfect world I'd choose a less expensive mainboard, maybe 3200 or higher clocked RAM and add a samsung 960 evo/pro 500gb m.2 ssd. Hmmm, decisions, decisions.
 
Here's what I lean towards right now:

intel i7 8700k
AsRock z370 extreme4
Gskill ripjaws V 3200 (cl16)
samsung 960 evo 500gb

And this all goes with my currently existing msi gtx 1080.

All said and done at the retailers I checked out this would cost me about 870€ or 1073$

yay or nay?
 
The 6 core i5 8600K should do fine and save you some money. You would still need a cooler for the CPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (€226.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€159.65 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€190.76 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€130.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €708.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-22 18:41 CET+0100
 

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