Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte (More info?)
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:48:00 -0000, "Adrian Stuart"
<splodge@splod_ge.com> wrote:
>
>"KatManDEW" <donwise@clover.net> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" <ioxley@lineone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"KatManDEW" <donwise@clover.net> wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" <ioxley@lineone.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> ><no_one@example.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:vcvm01lg15maq49ckcv6p0f92222hg7r08@4ax.com...
>>>> >> "PhilD" <phild351(removethis)c@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at
>>>> >> >work
>>>> >using
>>>> >> >my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
>>>> >intermittant
>>>> >> >on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so
>>>> >> >he
>>>> >let
>>>> >> >me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
>>>> >> >consistantly on the front ports.
>>>> >> snip
>>>> >> Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
>>>> >> Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
>>>> >> other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
>>>> >> there a common thread here?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
>>>> >> Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
>>>> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>>>> >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>>> >
>>>> >As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
>>>controlled
>>>> >by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
>>>cable
>>>> >or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for
>>>> >2.0.
>>>> >
>>>> >Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)
>>>> >
>>>> Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
>>>> but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
>>>> ports on the IBM desktops at work.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
>>>> correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
>>>> things that the front ports are the handiest for.....
>>>
>>>What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
>>>your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for
>>>connection
>>>to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
>>>pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes, but
>>>a
>>>port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0 speeds.
>>>In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
>>>hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
>>>socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
>>>possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
>>>you have used.
>>>
>>>You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
>>>reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
>>>certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB
>>>header
>>>on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
>>>ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that
>>>provides
>>>a USB socket.
>>>
>>>Here is a really useful source of USB information:
>>>http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
>> of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
>> two USB ports and a Firewire port.
>>
>> Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
>> the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
>> But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
>> front of the case.
>>
>> I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
>> USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
>> is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
>> of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
>> http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
>> It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
>> I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
>> readers, and no overclocking gizmos.
>
>I have a an 8KNXP and Antec case. I think when I built it there was an
>addendum to either the case or motherboard manual about errors in the USB
>wiring. Possibly a polarity switch.
>
>Adrian
>
Thanks for the reply. I just checked all my documentation and I did
not find any addendums. I left a message on the Antec and Gigabyte
support sites.
I wonder if it would hurt to try swapping the D+ and D- polarity?
Thanks
Don
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:48:00 -0000, "Adrian Stuart"
<splodge@splod_ge.com> wrote:
>
>"KatManDEW" <donwise@clover.net> wrote in message
>news:rliq01l8nlts1ikjgj82tib2ssl9vgguru@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:30:39 -0000, "IanO" <ioxley@lineone.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"KatManDEW" <donwise@clover.net> wrote in message
>>>news:7cvn0199elokh50l4ve2f6ei80ab8k8mbm@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:46:11 -0000, "IanO" <ioxley@lineone.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> ><no_one@example.net> wrote in message
>>>> >news:vcvm01lg15maq49ckcv6p0f92222hg7r08@4ax.com...
>>>> >> "PhilD" <phild351(removethis)c@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >I'm having the exact same problem with multiple Acer desktops at
>>>> >> >work
>>>> >using
>>>> >> >my personal Lexar Jumpdrive Elite. Another brand, but older, is
>>>> >intermittant
>>>> >> >on the front ports. I convinced my boss that I need one at work, so
>>>> >> >he
>>>> >let
>>>> >> >me go buy one. I forget the brand I got, but guess what, it works
>>>> >> >consistantly on the front ports.
>>>> >> snip
>>>> >> Mmmmm, I wonder if the problem may be the jump drive. I too have a
>>>> >> Lexar 1 gig that cannot connect to my Dell notebook. Works on the
>>>> >> other two computers here though. Also works on my grandson's. Is
>>>> >> there a common thread here?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
>>>> >> Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
>>>> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>>>> >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>>> >
>>>> >As far as I know, the pins you connected your front ports to are
>>>controlled
>>>> >by the same chip as the rear ports. However it is possible that the
>>>cable
>>>> >or cables running to the front ports on the case are not wired for
>>>> >2.0.
>>>> >
>>>> >Ian (trying to bottom post as much as possible!)
>>>> >
>>>> Mine is a Lexar 1 gig. It works fine in the back ports on my 8KNXP,
>>>> but not the front ports. It works on my Dell laptop and in the front
>>>> ports on the IBM desktops at work.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder how we can find out about the front port wiring to see if it's
>>>> correct, or if they even support 2.0? A jump drive is one of the
>>>> things that the front ports are the handiest for.....
>>>
>>>What case do you have? We are talking, aren't we, about ports built onto
>>>your case with trailing cables terminating in pins or blocks for
>>>connection
>>>to the headers on the Gigabyte board? Just to be clear! ;-) The header
>>>pins for either USB standard are the same to all intents and purposes, but
>>>a
>>>port, hub or cable can still be incapable of operating at USB 2.0 speeds.
>>>In such cases only USB 1.1 speed is achieved. Since you achieve USB 2.0
>>>hi-speed with the drive on your rear ports, I still suspect that the
>>>socket/cable provided with your case cannot handle 2.0. It is sometimes
>>>possible to replace these, but you are into specifics based on whose case
>>>you have used.
>>>
>>>You could go to EBUYER and purchase their internal USB 2.0 7-in-1 card
>>>reader! As well as reading cards, it has a USB socket on it, which is
>>>certified 2.0. It's a useful peripheral, and connects to the same USB
>>>header
>>>on the motherboard. What's my point? It is to stop using the case front
>>>ports, and replace them with another certified USB 2.0 device that
>>>provides
>>>a USB socket.
>>>
>>>Here is a really useful source of USB information:
>>>http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/installusb.html
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Yes, we are talking about USB ports on the front
>> of the case. It's a Antec case with a little door on the front with
>> two USB ports and a Firewire port.
>>
>> Funny thing is that I have a old USB 1.1 hub plugged into a port on
>> the back of the PC, and the Lexar Jumpdrive works fine in that hub.
>> But it's a unrecognized device if I connect it to the ports on the
>> front of the case.
>>
>> I looked at a bunch of things on that web site. The idea of some front
>> USB/Firewire ports combined with a card reader, mounted in a drive bay
>> is VERY interesting. The only one I saw on that site also had a bunch
>> of other stuff like temperature displays and fan speed controllers;
>> http://shop.store.yahoo.com/directron/uc9fatr2b.html
>> It doesn't have any more UBS/Firewire ports that the front of my case.
>> I would love to have something like that with more ports and card
>> readers, and no overclocking gizmos.
>
>I have a an 8KNXP and Antec case. I think when I built it there was an
>addendum to either the case or motherboard manual about errors in the USB
>wiring. Possibly a polarity switch.
>
>Adrian
>
Thanks for the reply. I just checked all my documentation and I did
not find any addendums. I left a message on the Antec and Gigabyte
support sites.
I wonder if it would hurt to try swapping the D+ and D- polarity?
Thanks
Don
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