970 vs 980 ti for 1080p gaming

[Ieron]

Hello guys!

Is it worth to spend 850 euros for a 980 ti over 400 euros for a 970 if my goal is simply getting 60 fps even at minimum settings for 2-3 years at 1080p? Would it be a better idea to just save the 450 euros and get the next 970 equivalent when I stop getting 60 fps?

How long would you estimate a 970 would get 60 fps even in minimum settings? I don't really care about maxing the graphic settings but I really care about getting 60 fps minimum, will the 970 start not being able to get 60 fps in minimum settings in the foreseeable future?

 

[L Helps]

Would be smarter to save the money and buy another gpu in 2-3 years from that money. the 980 ti is a waste of money when gaming on 1080p.

 

[Ieron]

Would be smarter to save the money and buy another gpu in 2-3 years from that money. the 980 ti is a waste of money when gaming on 1080p.

So you imply that the 970 will be able to keep 60 fps in minimum settings for 2-3 years at least?

 

[DarkSable]

The 970 is going to be getting WAYYYYY better than minimum settings for quite a long time; at least at 1080p.

 

[Ieron]

The 970 is going to be getting WAYYYYY better than minimum settings for quite a long time; at least at 1080p.

I hope you mean at 60 fps @ 1080 p right?

If that's the case, for someone that only cares about getting 60 fps at minimum settings at 1080p like me for 2-3 years the 980 ti is an overkill?

 

[L Helps]

Would be smarter to save the money and buy another gpu in 2-3 years from that money. the 980 ti is a waste of money when gaming on 1080p.

So you imply that the 970 will be able to keep 60 fps in minimum settings for 2-3 years at least?

I'm almost sure but I can't guarantee since I can't now what happens in the future. Just got one myself and I'm not worried at all.

 

[Xemko]

Would be smarter to save the money and buy another gpu in 2-3 years from that money. the 980 ti is a waste of money when gaming on 1080p.

So you imply that the 970 will be able to keep 60 fps in minimum settings for 2-3 years at least?

Yes, definitely it will run upcoming games at minimum/high/ultra settings with 60fps.
Consider also r9 390, might be even more futureproof thanks to 8gb ram.
980ti is overkill for your needs.

 

[Ieron]

Would be smarter to save the money and buy another gpu in 2-3 years from that money. the 980 ti is a waste of money when gaming on 1080p.

So you imply that the 970 will be able to keep 60 fps in minimum settings for 2-3 years at least?

Yes, definitely it will run upcoming games at minimum/high/ultra settings with 60fps.
Consider also r9 390, might be even more futureproof thanks to 8gb ram.
980ti is overkill for your needs.

I have already decided that I won't get a 390 because my case has really bad airflow and that extra heat generated will make my GPU and CPU too hot.

Besides when games start requiring more than 3.5 gb ram the 970 and 390 will start becoming obsolete and I could just turn some settings down since I don't really care about maximum quality settings.

 

[DarkSable]

Yes. You're worrying way too much, and we understand exactly what you're asking.

The 970 is still probably overkill for 1080p, but since you're freaking out about it, just go with it and be very happy.

 

[Ieron]

Yes. You're worrying way too much, and we understand exactly what you're asking.

The 970 is still probably overkill for 1080p, but since you're freaking out about it, just go with it and be very happy.

Thanks, the only thing that's worrying me (and the reason I made this thread) is that there already are some games that the 970 already can't maintain 60 fps even at lower settings such as GTA V, Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed Unity etc...

That's why I was considering the 980 ti...

 

[Xemko]

Yes. You're worrying way too much, and we understand exactly what you're asking.

The 970 is still probably overkill for 1080p, but since you're freaking out about it, just go with it and be very happy.

Thanks, the only thing that's worrying me (and the reason I made this thread) is that there already are some games that the 970 already can't maintain 60 fps even at lower settings such as GTA V, Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed Unity etc...

That's why I was considering the 980 ti...

That's odd.
I have Gigabyte g1 gtx 970, and my average fps in The Witcher 3 on ULTRA settings is ~50.
Also : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gta_v_pc_graphics_performance_review,5.html
What are the rest of your specs?

 

[Ieron]

Yes. You're worrying way too much, and we understand exactly what you're asking.

The 970 is still probably overkill for 1080p, but since you're freaking out about it, just go with it and be very happy.

Thanks, the only thing that's worrying me (and the reason I made this thread) is that there already are some games that the 970 already can't maintain 60 fps even at lower settings such as GTA V, Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed Unity etc...

That's why I was considering the 980 ti...

That's odd.
I have Gigabyte g1 gtx 970, and my average fps in The Witcher 3 on ULTRA settings is ~50.
Also : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gta_v_pc_graphics_performance_review,5.html
What are the rest of your specs?

I have a 4790k with 8 GB ram. So if there are now games that it can't run at 60 fps @ 1080 p, maybe it will be soon that it won't be able to maintain 60 fps at low settings. Or maybe I am wrong.

 

[Xemko]

Not to be salty, I think you are wrong/worrying too much. I don't see how 970gtx won't perform well at low settings/1080p in a few years.

 

[Ieron]

Not to be salty, I think you are wrong/worrying too much. I don't see how 970gtx won't perform well at low settings/1080p in a few years.

Because there are games that it already struggles to maintain 60 fps @ 1080 p even at lower than ultra settings...

 

[DarkSable]

Thanks, the only thing that's worrying me (and the reason I made this thread) is that there already are some games that the 970 already can't maintain 60 fps even at lower settings such as GTA V, Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed Unity etc...

That's why I was considering the 980 ti...

You're saying these things and providing absolutely nothing to back them up.

The GTX 960 gets over 100fps on GTA V with the "high quality" preset at 1080p.
The 970 gets over 100fps on GTA V at "very high" - tying with the 980.


The Witcher 3 is the new Crysis - it's not that it's so technologically advanced, it's just so optimized that it's a PoS for graphics cards to run. That being said, a GTX 970 gets about 50 fps on ultra settings. (With hairworks disabled because it gives you nothing and halves your framerate.)

Assassin's Creed has always had issues because it is not designed to run at 60 fps - it will still feel fluid at a steady 30fps, and the 970 gives about 40 at 1080p, Ultra settings, or 56fps at 1080p, Medium.


You claim that you don't care what settings you run games at but you're freaking the hell out about getting 60 fps... why does it matter to you? Some games are perfectly fluid at far less, and others running at 54 fps isn't really that much of a problem. You're getting obsessed over a particular number that really, really is meaningless in real life; it's just a useful performance metric.

If what you're seeking is fluidity, take the gobs of money you have, buy a 970, and buy a G-Sync monitor. That's going to give you WAY WAY WAY more fluidity than even a 980 ti would, and it'll last for an incredibly long time, because 30fps on G-Sync is just as (or more) fluid than 60fps on a regular monitor.