also the amp is not the best out there. The amp extreme is what is compared to a classified, gaming z, lightning, matrix etc. The amp edition is no more than a regular card with a slight overclock.
You seem to be confused. My link was clearly to the AMP Extreme
The OP clearly stated the amp Extreme
shall i save 40 bucks and get the amp extreme 980ti
What is your issue here ?
BTW, that regular card did pretty good in testing ... it actually outperformed the AMP Extreme in TPUs test. It also prices a point I will make later on ... clocks means beans, you can get better performance with lower OCs. That's the way boost works sometimes
ZOTAC GTX 980 Ti AMP Extreme =
1505 MHz / 2096 MHz / 129.1 fps
ZOTAC GTX 980 Ti AMP! = 1465 MHz / 1990 MHz /
130.4 fps
azzazel_99 :
He is saying he can get a 980ti for 340 or a 1070 for 380 so thats only 40 difference thats not 29% its 11%. Also considering the 1070 beats out a titanX maxwell (which performed better than a 980ti) i'd say for the 40 extra currency the 1070 is ABSOLUTELY worth the extra coin. More performance, less heat, better power efficiency, and the 1070 overclocks amazingly. over 2ghz. I'd say thats fantastic overclocking.
Geez .... where to start.
1. Be aware that highest cost doesn't mean highest performance. Knowledgeable gamers weren't buying Titans, they were buying 980 Ti's since they were much faster. The 980 Ti toasted the Titan X in gaming because a) the Titan X was only a reference card and b) the 980 Ti overclocked so much better. That's a 100% to 89% (12.4%) win... that 980 Ti card OCd 10.6% further...the Titan X being reference only OC'd 4%
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/26.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_Titan_X/32.html
112.4 x (110.6 / 104.0) = 119.5 win for the 980 Ti
With both cards overclocked, the 980 Ti was therefore just a hair
under 20% faster than the Titan X.
2. Show me this amazing OC... and I mean show me
actual performance for THIS particular $380 1070. The cheapest 1070 on pcpartpicker is a mini, which will be limited in performance just like all reference 1070s are limited by throttling. 2000MHz OC... big whoop ! ... as we so so well above comparing the Zotac cards, more Mhz in and of itself does not mean better performance.
Who cares what the numbers are if they don't deliver anything ? You have two problems here:
a) As so plainly demonstrated above, more MHz does not equate to more fps.
b) The bargain basement reference 1070 will throttle and can't hold that OC
When I indicated % advantage when OC's, I am only using actual results, that is in how much more fps.
http://videocardz.com/60838/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-gaming-x-is-much-better-than-founders-edition
There's your $380 1070... starting out at 1880, but dropping to 1680 .... so much for that "amazing" OC.
3. Let's look at the actual cards in question
133.7 fps (133.7 Reference OC / 117.9 = 13.4% increase in fps OC'd)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/27.html
129.1 fps (129.1 AIB OC'd / 102.0 reference stock) 26.5% increase in fps
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/26.html
133.7 fps / 129.1 fps = 3.56% faster ... what a coincidence !
4. As for less heat, better efficiency ... these are secondary considerations and do not have equal importance to all users. I do not wish to impose my view of the importance of these issues on another user. For example the fact that the 1060 has better efficiency than the 480 @ $5.70 in electric costs per year will be of no concern to most users.
It's also produces more heat and is louder, but these are two advantages many would easily give up if the 480 was faster... but it isn't. I have oft been told, "I don't care if its louder cause I play w/ headphones on". So while I did very clearly state that the 1070 is cooler, quieter and slightly faster. I did it by presenting the facts and let the OP to decide how much weight to apply to each one.
5. Simply put, it's a value comparison ... the difference between a high end AMP extreme or a bargain basement 1070 is not apples and apples.
a) You can not put the high end AMP Extreme on the same level as a bottom of the barrel reference 1070. This is a false equivalency. It's like comparing 2016 Brand A Pickup Truck w/ V8, 4 WD, all all the options with a bare bones 6 cyl, 2WD 2017 Brand B Pickup Truck
b) The real measured performance difference between the cards when both are overclocked is very small.... 3-4%
c) The 1070s advantages in heat, power efficiency and noise are real, but the importance to each user will vary widely.
d) The feature, component, cooling, overclocking differences between the cards are real, but the importance to each user will vary widely. If you don't overclock for example, many of these advantages will not be significant factors in the decision making process.
If it were a personal build, or one for one of our users, I would nix both choices. The logical and equivalent comparisons would be between:
-cheapest 980 Ti you can find versus cheapest 1070 you could find
-lowest cost of quality AIB 980 Ti w/ desired features you want (backplate, cooler design, etc.) that you can find versus cost of quality AIB 1070 you could find
With the OPs proposed choice, the only thing I can and did recommend is to weigh the relative value of what is on the table without ignoring anything. To get a 1070 with the equivalent feature set as the 980 Ti being used as the base reference, you would have to pay more than 30% more. The **value** difference is more than the $40 cost difference.... just like when you trade in a car. A year / model being traded in may have a base price... but then adjustments in value (positive and negative) must be added when you go thru the entire package...No AC ... minus $230 ...smaller engine ... - $500. Same thing here. The reference card throttles, AMP Extreme doesn't... how much is that worth ? Don't have a backplate, how much is that worth ? Apples and apples.