9800 GTX specs and pics

[Kari]

IF A G92 BASED CARD WAS RUNNING AT THE SAME MHZ AS THE 3870 GPU, FOR BOTH DDR4 AND THE CORE, THEN ATI'S CARDS WOULD BE SERIOUSLY LACKING.

Yeah and if phenoms were clocked at 5GHz they would kick intels a$$

But they are not

 

[pchoi04]

If the rumors are true it wouldnt surprise me. Nvidia is probably trying to spin off there GX2 as there highend card. If they came out with a GTX model of the same series that out performs a 2GPU setup, they would be shooting themselves in the foot.

I guess we wont know for sure until the weeks to come. We saw how good the G92 was with the 8800GT compared with the G80GTS models. Maybe theres more juice left in it than we thought?

 

[dos1986]

Sadly ATI will have to release something half decent to get the ball rolling again

 

[Hatman]

Meh, not really. ATI cards do better in some things nvidia in others. If you think the new ones will beat ATI in price/performance I say most likely not. ATI use a much cheaper process and way of implementing their new dual core gpus then nvidia. I dont think it will hurt them too much to drop the price. Also the partners can do a lot more with them in the way of coolers and overclocks.


If a 9800GX2 doesn't scale as well as the 9600GT which has amazing SLI scaling then I personally will probably go with an X2.. why? Because unlike a lot of people ill use it in the right situation to get the best out of it.

 

[NightlySputnik]

All of those HD3870X2 and 9800GTX are only small improvement over their previous part. They "sometimes" improve only in a limited way since not all games are SLI-Crossfire aware. This is to say that I presently own a 8800GT and will surely not upgrade until either R700 or G100 (or whatever it's code name) is available at the end of 2008.

 

[badgtx1969]

All of those HD3870X2 and 9800GTX are only small improvement over their previous part. They "sometimes" improve only in a limited way since not all games are SLI-Crossfire aware. This is to say that I presently own a 8800GT and will surely not upgrade until either R700 or G100 (or whatever it's code name) is available at the end of 2008.

Agreed, except I think that we might see RV770 by mid-summer. Hopefully this will shepherd a sooner and expedited arrival of the 'real' D9E (G100?).

Will the true 9800GTX please stand up.....please stand up!

 

[homerdog]

Who said anything about these specs being on the GTX?? Where the f*ck in my message did I even mention the GTX in that post???

MY POST WAS ABOUT THE WAY ATI THROWS MASSES OF MHZ AT THEIR CARDS TO GET PERFORMANCE.
IF A G92 BASED CARD WAS RUNNING AT THE SAME MHZ AS THE 3870 GPU, FOR BOTH DDR4 AND THE CORE, THEN ATI'S CARDS WOULD BE SERIOUSLY LACKING.

My comment was comparing GPUs and how efficient they are per MHZ... Instead tho Homerdog, you read my post totally wrong and make me look a thick ****.

Sorry, I just assumed you were referring to the 9800GTX since that's what this thread is about (9800 GTX specs and pics).

Anywho, IPC doesn't mean a hill of beans when you're comparing two separate architectures that are designed to run at different frequencies. ATI isn't throwing "masses of MHz at their cards," their cards are designed to run at high frequencies. Whether or not this was their original intention when they were designing the R600 is debatable (and I don't think it was), but this is the route that they have chosen with the 3800 series and I have to admit it's working out for them. 3800 cards are relatively cheap to produce and are a great choice for gamers on a budget.

 

[dev1se]

Definitely plenty choice out there for gamers who are happy settling with 20-25fps on Crysis!

The graphics card companies need to realise that whatever card to come out first that plays Crysis at Ultra High with 4xAA with 40FPS+ is going to sell in massive amounts if priced right. They should all be aiming to release a card that can manage this, to keep the competition alive.
At the moment, no card sounds like it'll be able to manage that.

 

[rudinho]

8800 GTX - 24 ROP ; 8800 GTS 320/640 - 20 ROP ; 9800GTX - 16 ROP...

Euhhh Nvidia wants to make a suicide ?

1) 128 SP - it's NOT enought for Crysis, when will we see 160 and 192 SP???
2) we know that 8800GTX gets better FPS in hi res 2560x because of 24 ROP !!! AND even those 24 ROP at launch were dissappointing, evernyone expected 32 !


SO PEOPLE for your next gen GPU look for those specs

Min 160 SP ( that we expected in the 8800 Ultra)
32 ROP
1024 MB of GDDR4 VRAM
Core speed : starting @ 550 Mhz

 

[Topcover]

The specs the rudinho above me posted seems a bit more on the mark. the specs posted in those articles seems to be more what i would exspect out of the 9800gt. I just find it hard to believe that nvidia would release a card that would have less memory than it's predecessor at the same price range.

 

[nkarasch]

To me it seems like the core speed would be over 650mhz since it is a G92 like the GTS. I put my money on 750mhz 😀

 

[homerdog]

To me it seems like the core speed would be over 650mhz since it is a G92 like the GTS. I put my money on 750mhz 😀

Nvidia likes to play it safe with their reference clocks. That way it's up to their AIB partners (eVGA, XFX, etc.) to ramp up the clockspeeds with their "factory OC'd" cards.

 

[dev1se]

Yeah sounds more like it from what ruhdinho mentioned above.... the 9800 series needs to at least double on the spec of the 9600 otherwise what would be the point

nVidia has always pretty much doubled the performance of their high end parts compared to their mid range ones. Why end the trend now?

6600 was half the 6800, 7600 was half of a 7900, 8600 half the 8800...

Or another pattern I found was Mid-Range SLI = High end Single GPU

Check the Overall FPS charts, doesnt seem to be far off.

So my mystical prediction for the 9800GTX is.... Around 10% lower / higher performance than 9600GT SLi.

 

[homerdog]

6600 was half the 6800, 7600 was half of a 7900, 8600 half the 8800...

True for the 6600 and 7600, but the 8600 wasn't even close to half the 8800. Things have changed since the 6 and 7 series days.

So my mystical prediction for the 9800GTX is.... Around 10% lower / higher performance than 9600GT SLi.

I like that prediction

 

[amddiesel]

My respect to ATi comes for its pricing... it's been excellently pricing its cards since the release of the 2900XT...

Remember though, when the X1900XTX was the daddy?? ATi were shafting us on the prices at that point.

Whoever is on top at any given moment in time seems to be asking silly money for their cards. Hence nVidia's rediculous pricing of the 8800 Ultra, for what is only a marginal performance increase over the GTX.

Still have my "daddy" in a box.. Was the bomb back then

 

[harmattan]

Hadn't thought about it that way... Usually, people mention the trend of 1.5-2x performance of high-end cards over generations. If 9800 GTX is in fact 2x performance of 9600 GT, it should be a good card.

I'm still waiting for R700 and G100 though...

 

[homerdog]

Hadn't thought about it that way... Usually, people mention the trend of 1.5-2x performance of high-end cards over generations. If 9800 GTX is in fact 2x performance of 9600 GT, it should be a good card.

Saying that two 9600GTs will have roughly equal performance to a 9800GTX is not the same thing as saying that one 9800GTX will be twice as fast as one 9600GT. You have to take SLI scaling inefficiencies into consideration. I would guess that a 9800GTX would be ~70-80% faster than a 9600GT, but that's a pretty big guess.

 

[dev1se]

True for the 6600 and 7600, but the 8600 wasn't even close to half the 8800. Things have changed since the 6 and 7 series days.

I like that prediction

You get what I mean though, judging from past series this is the way I expect it to pan out this time around.

Lets hope it is 10%+ better than 9600GT SLi

 

[runswindows95]

Min 160 SP ( that we expected in the 8800 Ultra)
32 ROP
1024 MB of GDDR4 VRAM
Core speed : starting @ 550 Mhz

I also think that the 9800GTX will have a GB of VRAM, not the 512MB that has been claimed.

 

[homerdog]

You get what I mean though, judging from past series this is the way I expect it to pan out this time around.

In the past we have generally had low-end cards, midrange cards, and high-end cards, each tier being at least ~2x faster than the one below it. Recently things have been migrating to the middle; there is no longer such a huge distinction between the midrange and the highend. Whether this trend will continue is anyone's guess, but I have to admit I kind of like it. Having a $250 8800GT that performs almost as good as a $450 8800GTX is kind of nice 😛

Lets hope it is 10%+ better than 9600GT SLi

If that were the case then I would be pleasantly surprised.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Its just timing in the market. ATI's failure to compete at the top left them in between mid and high. The monies always in the middle low end, and nVidia didnt want to tip their hat too soon, so out came the 8600s which coincedently on par with the 2600. Things have changed a little, but not much. If it was me, which it will be sooner or later, Im waiting for the nexr REAL gen of cards to come

 

[radguy]

Agreed with 2x performance of 9600gt. But I like being able to pick up an 8800 gt 8800 gs 3850 or 3870 now a 9600gt and get the gaming performance I want for 150-250 bucks ok (maybe 280 in october). But still want a high end card to come out even if i don't buy it. We don't have one and the while theres alot in the market nothing in the high end. If I had 5 grand for a computer I would like to play some of these games at 4 megapixel res. I really would like playing crysis

 

[radguy]

sorry accidentally pressed the submit button

-playing cryis completely maxed out and ok for a decent price. honestly I don't want to wait that long either and I feel like the market is going to be slow for a while. Maybe middle of 09 before we really can play the game for 2 grand.