Question 9900KS is binned according to intel. What does this mean?

[ch33r]

Exactly as the title states. The 9900KS was announced today and intel says its binned. What does that mean? Also, given the fact that the chip will have hardware mitigations against the recent vulnerabilities, will I still need windows updates and can I disable them?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Binning basically means intel will only ship the best quality processors they manufacturer.

Some binned special edition chips from intel are the i7 8086k and I9 9900ks, basically the highest quality and upclocked versions of the i7 8700k and I9 9900k respectively.
If you buy a 9900ks, it will have higher stock clocks and the potential to overclock more than a 9900k. Realistically you likely cant overclock either much since the stock 5ghz clocks are pushing the limits of the architecture.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Binned is the cream of the crop in this case , higher standard.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900ks-10nm-ice-lake,39442.html

 

[CountMike]

Binning is actually sorting by performance, could be high or low binned.

 

[valeman2012]

Binned is the cream of the crop , higher standard.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900ks-10nm-ice-lake,39442.html

There nothing to make fun of when the Special Edition of this Intel i9-9900KS actually have improved performance at stock settings compared to AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Special Edition.

Even if the Intel i9 9900KS costing more is going save your money in the future (more than AMD Ryzen 2700X SE) as usually Intel does.⌛

 

[NightHawkRMX]

True, but id assume a special edition I9 that likely retails for over $500 isnt going to be low binned.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The graphics are also not disabled in this release.

 

[valeman2012]

The graphics are also not disabled in this release.

They probably going have a Laptop version called Intel i9-9900KYS
A Low Power 8 Core cpu Special Edition ?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

They probably going have a Laptop version called Intel i9-9900KYS
A Low Power 8 Core cpu Special Edition ?

With so many variants I wouldn't be surprised by that if it happened.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Well it would make sense to make a lower tdp version. Might not be at 5ghz tho.
The i9 9900k in the alienware area 51 thermal throttles to death.

 

[valeman2012]

With so many variants I wouldn't be surprised by that if it happened.

I mean if they released the Intel i9-9900KYS it almost like asking to you kill your self or something for having that much variants to buy. 💻

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Genuine Intel© CoreTM i9 9990kfc-xyz Extreme
Note: Descrete graphics required.
Note: No thermal solution included.

 

[geofelt]

What it means is that Intel will not go quietly when amd announces ryzen 3000.
So far as I know prices were not announced, it could be very aggressive if need be.

 

[hftvhftv]

What it means is that Intel will not go quietly when amd announces ryzen 3000.
So far as I know prices were not announced, it could be very aggressive if need be.

I hope the AMD CPUs call for a massive price drop on Intel CPUs.

 

[mdd1963]

So the 9900KS has an all-ore turbo of 5 GHz (300 MHz higher), and, minimum base clock is now 4.0 GHz (400 MHz higher); those are significant jumps, but, whether it will hold off a Ryzen 12 core in content creation is another story...(seems doubtful, based on some recent leaks on how well a new lowly 6 core is scoring in Geekbench, if the leaks are accurate)

As to the original 'binning' question, these are the CPUs that have proven stable at higher base and turbo clock speeds, and therefore are designated as a new model variation. (Makes sense, given the number of overclocking enthusiasts seeking a perceived all core 5 GHz utopia...)

 

[AllanGH]

It looks like the upcoming 3000 series has intel scared.

Good.

This always works to the consumers' advantage.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-six-core-processor,39436.html
For all who haven't seen, a benchmark figure popped up that confirms some of the data from the Adored TV leak is correct.

We saw a recent Geekbench benchmark pop up for a new AMD Matisse cpu with 6 cores, 12 threads, 3.2 base, and 3.99 boost (roughly 4ghz).
The AdoredTV leak months ago showed the Ryzen 3300 having identical specs:
Ryzen 3 3300 6 / 12 - 3.2 / 4.0GHz 50W $99
This leads me to believe some of the other info on that table is correct.

Note that the table also showed:
Ryzen 7 3700X 12 / 24 - 4.2 / 5.0GHz 105W $329
If this is true, this CPU will cream the 9900k.

 

[AllanGH]

Yup....and intel's last two press releases scream "scared s#!7less".

 

[mdd1963]

If those 3700X specs are accurate, and if gaming performance jumps proportionately with CInebench results....it will be very good times for AMD!

Matching/exceeding the 9900K (and new 9900KS) results in gaming is going to be quite tough, hopefully we'll get some more results within 24 hours!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

We will get x570 info. Maybe some cpu info. Likely the whole product lineup will come at e3 in 2 weeks or so.

 

[MasterMadBones]

I do not believe that that specific 6-core/12-thread CPU was a Ryzen 3 variant. AMD would shoot themselves in the foot with the Ryzen 5 3400G, which is a 4-core/8-thread Picasso APU. They just can't put such an APU above a 6-core/12-thread Matisse CPU in the product stack when it underperforms it in every way.

Anyway, we will probably know more in just a few hours.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Keynote is in like 1/2 hour. I doubt we will get the full product stack rn. I would wait till e3.
Even still i doubt e3 will announce apus.

 

[hftvhftv]

Well, AMD just dropped 12 core consumer CPUs, for the same price as the 9900K.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

hoping for great performance.

 

[nicholas70]

9900KS is a gimmick if you aske me the S stands for sucker. I mean is it really worth paying Intel an extra 70 to 100 bucks to OC your cpu from the factory for you?