A 4.1 GHz Dual Core at $130 - Can it be True?

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I edited this post rather than post again. After comparing the numbers more closely, I'll stick with my earlier claim that there is no payback for using DDR2-667 nor DDR2-800 RAM with the 805 overclock. Of course if you intend to use the memory later with another CPU, there are definite advantages.

I received my Crucial Ballistix DDR2-667 today. The timings are the tightest I could find, @ 3-3-3-12 (3). Although this memory does not come up on the Crucial Memory Advisor for the Asus P5WD2 Premium nor the P5WD2-E Premium, it works quite well on both.

Of course I couldn't wait to get it in the water cooled system and see how the numbers compared with Corsair Value Select DDR2-533 and Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800. We ran all benchmarks @ 4.0GHz, since we've already proven that the numbers will increase or decrease proportionally with the bus rate. We used the old results generated by the Corsair Value Select DDR2-533 and the Crucial DDR2-800. We ran the benchmarks with 2.15v on the memory (Crucial Ballistix is warrantied up to 2.2v.) The voltage may not be necessary, but this is as far as I've gotten.

I was able to tighten the timings to 3-3-3-8(3) @ 667MHz in BIOS (Asus chooses a 3:5 divider to run 667MHz according to CPUZ). The results amazed me, and I think they will most of you as well.

And for those who wanted to know, I ran the memory at 800MHz with 4-3-3-12(3) timings. Asus uses a 1:2 divider for 800MHz.

Basically, the numbers show that the 533 slightly out-performs even 800 in some tests, and is slightly behind the 667 and 800 in other tests. However, not one of the test results shows a drastic advantage to one memory over another. Only 1 result showed a 12% advantage, where most were fractions of fractions. Seeing is believing?

Scroll to the bottom of the page for the memory comparisons link. Best of luck with your projects. 🙂

http://ultramaxcc.com.au/intro.htm
 
As I've been doing some OS tweaking and after I added a second SATA 160GB drive, I noticed a couple of things happening.

1: My Asus AIBoost stopped reporting 2core useage stats and is now showing temps 6-12C higher than before.
(I did verify that both cores were in fact operating)
2: CPU became unstable again requiring upping voltage to compensate and restabilize.

I have been purposefully cycling my computer on and off to cure the silver5 thermal paste, in hopes of lowering temps a bit.

I was under the impression that as my cpu/ram 'burn-in' that they would stabilize at certain voltages. Seems like my cpu decided it was a little hungrier than before heh.
 
hey c'mon. SOmeone help me out.

This whole article is about 4.1 ghz thing?
I want a new processor for gaming... all sorts of games.
Well, about this...

What processor has 4.1 Ghz? could someone give me the exact name of it?
 
hey c'mon. SOmeone help me out.

This whole article is about 4.1 ghz thing?
I want a new processor for gaming... all sorts of games.
Well, about this...

What processor has 4.1 Ghz? could someone give me the exact name of it? So i can sue 4.1 ghz

i'm extreemly noob in this, so... just hope you can help me out..

thanks in advance
~noobone
 
you mean this one? http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6888077541&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3ANL%3A1&rd=1
Intel Pentium® D Processor 805 Dual, DUO 2.66GHz 2MB

OMg... Its soo cheap...

well, does it mean, that the same processor, but than 830 instead of 805 is working better?

Yes, exacly that one! Overclocked to 3.6GHz wonderfull! I don't care about power consuption! Is for a desktop and not a laptop. Also I have 550W power supply. So my power supply is all for my CPU and my nVidia PCI-Express!! wonderfull!

All games run smoothly! I love it!

Need for speed, UT2004, Juiced all maximum setting... something that before I never had the possibility to play at max resolution and details.

Obviously F.E.A.R. is a freaking game that is not possible to set at maximum resolution, but at medium detail at 1024x748 I have an average of 65 frames/s. I can not ask more than that.

Sooner I will have another nVidia 7900 GT ... so that ... wonderful SLI + D805 at 3.6GHz wowowowowowo!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL! :lol: that is my heaven!! see yaaa.....
 
thanks for telling me... i'm almost sure that i;m going to buy it.
two more thigns:
1) How can i know taht processor will fit in my PC? I dont even know how i can check my motherboard =_=

2) Where can i buy it very cheap? 😀
 
I am hoping the someone who is running at 3.8 Ghz or higher can offer me some advice. I currently have my processor overclocked to 3.6 Ghz which I was able to do without any changes to voltages or any additional cooling. I recently installed liquid cooling and would like to push the overclock to at least 3.8 Ghz. When I try to go up above 180Mhz (3.6 Ghz) the system shuts down. I am pretty sure I will have to bump the voltage up a bit to go to from 180 Mhz to 190 Mhz (3.8 Ghz) on the system bus. The voltage is set at the system default, 1.4V How much should I bump up the voltage to get to 3.8 or 4.0 Ghz on the processor? Should I just go up .1 to 1.5v? (which is my guess). What about the video card voltage? Or is this just trial and error all the way? Does anybody with my motherboard have the processor up to 4.1Ghz? Oh I am using the ASUS AI Booster from within Windows to make the changes to the system bus. There is a lot of info in the Tom's article and I am hoping that some of the overclocking enthusists in the forum can shed some light on thier real life experiences.






ASUS P5WD2-E Premium
Intel P4 805 2.66 533 Mhz Processor
2 Gig OCZ 667 Mhz Memory
EVGA GeForce 7900 GT 256 Meg GDDR3 PCI Express 500Mhz/1500Mhz
2 X WD 74 Gig 10000RPM Raptor HD
19" Viewsonic VX922 Flat Panel Display
Thermaltake Big Water 745 Liqiud Cooling
 
I am hoping the someone who is running at 3.8 Ghz or higher can offer me some advice. I currently have my processor overclocked to 3.6 Ghz which I was able to do without any changes to voltages or any additional cooling. I recently installed liquid cooling and would like to push the overclock to at least 3.8 Ghz. When I try to go up above 180Mhz (3.6 Ghz) the system shuts down. I am pretty sure I will have to bump the voltage up a bit to go to from 180 Mhz to 190 Mhz (3.8 Ghz) on the system bus. The voltage is set at the system default, 1.4V How much should I bump up the voltage to get to 3.8 or 4.0 Ghz on the processor? Should I just go up .1 to 1.5v? (which is my guess). What about the video card voltage? Or is this just trial and error all the way? Does anybody with my motherboard have the processor up to 4.1Ghz? Oh I am using the ASUS AI Booster from within Windows to make the changes to the system bus. There is a lot of info in the Tom's article and I am hoping that some of the overclocking enthusists in the forum can shed some light on thier real life experiences.






ASUS P5WD2-E Premium
Intel P4 805 2.66 533 Mhz Processor
2 Gig OCZ 667 Mhz Memory
EVGA GeForce 7900 GT 256 Meg GDDR3 PCI Express 500Mhz/1500Mhz
2 X WD 74 Gig 10000RPM Raptor HD
19" Viewsonic VX922 Flat Panel Display
Thermaltake Big Water 745 Liqiud Cooling

I have the same motherboard and the cpu on water cooling. Try 1.45v and see how that goes for 3.8GHz. Mine runs stable there. For 4.0GHz mine runs stable at 1.5v. It is pretty much trial and error as every CPU is slightly different. I'm running 4.1GHz @ 1.525v. At the higher overclocks (4.0 to 4.1GHz) I up the MCH (memory controller hub) voltage to 1.5v as well, but have never had to touch the PCI-E voltage. 🙂
 
I am hoping the someone who is running at 3.8 Ghz or higher can offer me some advice. I currently have my processor overclocked to 3.6 Ghz which I was able to do without any changes to voltages or any additional cooling. I recently installed liquid cooling and would like to push the overclock to at least 3.8 Ghz. When I try to go up above 180Mhz (3.6 Ghz) the system shuts down. I am pretty sure I will have to bump the voltage up a bit to go to from 180 Mhz to 190 Mhz (3.8 Ghz) on the system bus. The voltage is set at the system default, 1.4V How much should I bump up the voltage to get to 3.8 or 4.0 Ghz on the processor? Should I just go up .1 to 1.5v? (which is my guess). What about the video card voltage? Or is this just trial and error all the way? Does anybody with my motherboard have the processor up to 4.1Ghz? Oh I am using the ASUS AI Booster from within Windows to make the changes to the system bus. There is a lot of info in the Tom's article and I am hoping that some of the overclocking enthusists in the forum can shed some light on thier real life experiences.






ASUS P5WD2-E Premium
Intel P4 805 2.66 533 Mhz Processor
2 Gig OCZ 667 Mhz Memory
EVGA GeForce 7900 GT 256 Meg GDDR3 PCI Express 500Mhz/1500Mhz
2 X WD 74 Gig 10000RPM Raptor HD
19" Viewsonic VX922 Flat Panel Display
Thermaltake Big Water 745 Liqiud Cooling

I have the same motherboard and the cpu on water cooling. Try 1.45v and see how that goes for 3.8GHz. Mine runs stable there. For 4.0GHz mine runs stable at 1.5v. It is pretty much trial and error as every CPU is slightly different. I'm running 4.1GHz @ 1.525v. At the higher overclocks (4.0 to 4.1GHz) I up the MCH (memory controller hub) voltage to 1.5v as well, but have never had to touch the PCI-E voltage. 🙂
 
hey,

could you guys plz tell me some tips to overclock Pentium D805 to 3,6 or 3,8Ghz or if it's possible 4 Ghz or 4.1ghz. I hope someone can help me. I'm bad with these things. So could you give a very easy explain??? How to begin with overclock etc. etc...

~noobone
 
hey,

could you guys plz tell me some tips to overclock Pentium D805 to 3,6 or 3,8Ghz or if it's possible 4 Ghz or 4.1ghz. I hope someone can help me. I'm bad with these things. So could you give a very easy explain??? How to begin with overclock etc. etc...

~noobone
 
hey,

could you guys plz tell me some tips to overclock Pentium D805 to 3,6 or 3,8Ghz or if it's possible 4 Ghz or 4.1ghz. I hope someone can help me. I'm bad with these things. So could you give a very easy explain??? How to begin with overclock etc. etc...

~noobone

You don't even know if it'll fit your motherboard? Sorry, but if you can't take the time to read the original article and subsequent posts I can't help you. Not that we don't help each other out, but I think its wrong to have someone explain to you step by step what to do without you investing any time nor effort to learn. There are no short cuts to overclocking. You should know enough about the components to safely set up your system before playing with voltages IMO.

All of the info has already been stated here. I think you'll find people here are friendly and helpful if you have a specific question. Start by finding out if your motherboard is a socket 775, and if it supports dual cores. If not, there's no need for you to look any further into the 805. 🙂
 
Thanks Dude, 1.45 volts works like a charm, I am running at 3.8Ghz no problems at all. I am going to give it a couple days before I take it up any higher. No heat problems yet with the water cooling, the CPU temp didn't jump more than a degree when I jumped from 3.6 to 3.8.
 
no i dont even know that. You know why? BEcause i'm a totaly amature if it comes to PC hardware. I read most of the article, but i dont understand it. I even had to ask if they were talking about pentium 805...

My english isnt very well and PC language isn't good either... so that's why i hope someone can help me by explaining me with easy noob language how i can know that this processor will fit my pc. I download a program called Sisoftware, and i pressed motherboard info. But i dont know what is the name...

I'll try to typ in some things i see there: It's in dutch language:
Bus: AGP PCI USD FireWire /1394/i2c/ SMbus
MOdel: GA-8SGXLFS
MPS versie : 1.40
Chipset: SIs 648/655
I just know it has a Intel pentium 4 2.8Ghz processor. Nothing much more...

Well, i hope it could fit.

2nd thing is.... How can i overclock it? I've finally discovered a little what overclocked is.... but i want to ask, how?

thanks
~Noobone
 
@Noobone

Yo! Man! I'm available to give you some directions. It is nice to see that you are honest about what you know and what you don't know.

Other guys here should appreciate this rather than be negative... :!:
(he just doesn't know and is asking information, and this is the right place to ask.)

:arrow: First step: :wink:
I can give you directions but you need to be the one to do the researches.

As you said you need to find if your motherboard support the Pentium D805.
Go on your motherboard website and find the list of supported CPU. Usually in the support section of the website.

once you know this you will know if you can install the Pentium D805.

Post also (maybe as signature) all the specification of your computer, everything you know (e.g. look my signature)

Do this when you can and we can proceed next :)
 
...I'll try to typ in some things i see there: It's in dutch language:
Bus: AGP PCI USD FireWire /1394/i2c/ SMbus
MOdel: GA-8SGXLFS
MPS versie : 1.40
Chipset: SIs 648/655
I just know it has a Intel pentium 4 2.8Ghz processor. Nothing much more...

Well, i hope it could fit.

2nd thing is.... How can i overclock it? I've finally discovered a little what overclocked is.... but i want to ask, how?

thanks
~Noobone

Your motherboard is a Gigabyte, but I can't find that model number on their worldwide support page. You might try Gigabyte support from your area since it doesn't look like it was sold in many places.

I googled some and found its a SiS648FX chipset, which could be either socket.

All you need to know at this point is what socket it is. If it's a socket 478, it won't support an 805. If it's a socket 775, it may need a BIOS update to work with dual core CPUs.

Overclocking the 805 is extremely easy. Only 2 settings need to be adjusted in BIOS, the FSB and the vcore voltage. 🙂
 
omg, thanks your supporting me. Well, i have to do research. I wanna ask, How can i know what my computer specs are?

I was suggested to download sisoftware sandra, but it doesnt seem to show socket information for example...

but its about teh processor i have now, i have: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2,8 Ghz. That's all i know...

i sure hope i can use teh 805, to have a better computer than my brother 😀

~Noobone
 
Here a free program that gives you some basics specification of your computer. (such as the CPU, motherboard, and memory). It is called CPU-Z. For now you might want to use this rather than SiSoft Sandra.

Download the last version 1.34.1 here:
http://www.cpuid.com/

Run the program, click on Mainboard to know your motherboard manufacturer and model, so that you can search it on internet and know if it support the Pentium D805.

Let me know if you have any problem.
 
If I were you, I'd steer clear of the 805. The systems tested on TG's article all used 975 or 955 chipsets. There have been a couple who have successfully overclocked the CPU with the Nforce4 chipset as well, although I have yet to see an NF4 reach 4.0GHz.

You have a SiS chipset. You'd be the first that I've seen to make it work with that chipset. Might work and might not, but since no one else here has tried it, you wouldn't get help from anyone with experience on your components.

All that is assuming you have a socket 775 and your BIOS supports dual core, which I doubt. 🙂