A good Graphic card please?. I currently have MSI-FM2-A75MA-P33 MOBO , Transend Jet Ram DDR3 8 GB and AMD A10-5800k.

[Meet Vyas]

Well, i haven't builded this pc yet.
Is this good enough for gaming ?
A good graphic card for this ?
Please tell a cheap one.

 

[Deus Gladiorum]

Oh crap, you live in India? Aw, dude, why didn't you tell us that? India's prices aren't 1:1 when you convert them from USD to Rupees. Hardware in India is significantly more expensive, and it's not guaranteed to have the same parts available as we do in the US. Can you tell us what your budget in rupees please? We'll have to do some searching through Amazon India and flipkart.

About 30,000 र (rs)

And btw snapdeal is also a good site in India.

Btw I love you guys for help (no homo lol ) specially you Deus Gladiorum 😉 😀😀
😉

Unfortunately, 30,000 र worth of parts in India only gets you around $350 worth of parts in the US, maybe even less. Still, I think I got you some pretty good parts, with a bit of an emphasis on future proofing.

Motherboard: Asus P8H61-M-LX3 R2.0 16GB DDR3 Intel Motherboard - Rs. 3810
CPU/Processor: Intel Pentium G2010 2.80GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor - Rs. 3995
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD7790 1GB DDR5 ATI PCI E Graphic Card - Rs. 11685
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB Internal Desktop Hard Drive (ST500DM002) - Rs. 3515
Memory: Corsair Value Select 4GB (1 X 4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop Memory (CMV4GX3M1A1600C11) - Rs. 2685
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply (CMPSU-430CXV2) - Rs. 3250
Cabinet/Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 ATX Cabinet - Silver (RC-311B-SKN1) - Rs. 2525

Total with shipping and taxes: Rs. 33,015

The grand total is 33,015 र with shipping (and I believe) taxes already included. I don't see any listings about mail-in rebates either.

The motherboard is just a standard low budget motherboard, however I decided to make the build an Intel rather than an AMD. The good thing is, this is an Intel LGA 1155 socket motherboard, meaning when the time is right, you can upgrade yourself to an i3-3220, or better, an i5 from the Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge series without having to replace your motherboard, saving both time and money.

The Intel G2020 is a great budget processor, and it's very new having been released January of this year. It's (apparently) about equivalent to the Athlon II X4 750k, give or take, even though there's 2 fewer cores, Intel has far more efficiency per core than AMD does. Their performance should be similar, and I couldn't find a well enough priced 4 core CPU from AMD nor Intel, so when you're forced to look at a 2 core CPU, Intel is always the winner.

The Graphics Card is an HD 7790. For reference, the Xbox One will be using a graphics card based on this, and no, you shouldn't have to worry about bottlenecking unless the game is especially CPU bound.

The Storage is just a nice Seagate 500 GB, coming in at the standard 7200 RPM. If and when you run out of storage space, it's very easy to get another internal hard drive for the same price.

The memory is only 4 GB, but it's fast and efficient coming in at 1600 MHz with a nice CAS latency of 9.

The PSU is a bit overkill. I checked a PSU calculator and it determined that the minimum wattage recommended for your build is 253 W, and the recommended wattage is 303 W under 100% load. This PSU is 430 W, so it's safe to say you have plenty of headroom for upgrades and/or overclocking. It's also a fantastic brand, and trust me, you don't want a disreputable brand when purchasing the part that sends electrical current through your components.

Lastly there's the case. It looks decent, has a modest I/O front panel set, and from reviews I've read on other sites for the same model, it apparently has good wire management capabilities which is good, because unless you get a modular PSU (which the CX 430 is not), wire management in a case is a plus.

Anyway, hopefully this suits all your needs. Enjoy!

 

[Danzas4321]

1. The pricing of PCPartPicker is accurate. It includes all the discounts and Shipping prices. And everyone in this forum suggests parts from PC Part Picker and I have never heard anyone complaining like this at all. Everyone suggests from PC part picker and so did I.

2. As for the RAM. The motherboard supports it and hence it should be just fine, because motherboard supports it. It is listed under the Motherboard specs. I personally checked it before recommending.

3. As for the bottleneck. Yes, the 7870 would bottleneck that CPU a bit. But still it would perform better than it would with a 7850. Also the bottleneck could be removed in the future for just 30 more dollars in the future and hence offering stellar performance.

4. Also try to post things in multi paragraphs. Writing a Single bit paragraph makes things hard to understand. You should use Multiple paragraphs Instead. Just an advice. Don't take it in a bad way.

Your points are a bit underwhelming and leave out crucial facts just to support your argument. I happened to use PC Partpicker too, but the difference was my level of responsibility in checking it. Let's go over a few things. As you said, "It includes all the discounts and Shipping prices" when available. It can't list the prices for every website due to things such as the website's layout and shipping address relative to the warehouse. If you go ahead and recheck the three items mentioned, you'll notice a curious little "+" at the end of each Merchant total, and curiously enough, these same merchants with a "+" happen to be missing a shipping cost. Go ahead, check it right now:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx21c11t2k28x

Then of course, the issue is that mail-in rebates are factored into the final price. But that's just the thing, they're mail-in rebates. Mail-in rebates, if you go out of your way to look up what they are, are post-purchase discounts. After a user has spent the pre-rebate cost on a product, they can fill out a form and mail it back in order to get back some of their money. However, that means that you must be able to afford the pre-rebate price tag, which as we established, adds another $70. Yes, everyone on Tom's Hardware uses PCPartpicker, but those of us who are responsible take the time to select our parts and we make sure to list pre-rebate and post-rebate costs as PCPartpicker's BBC Code Markup does not list such things. I suggest that, if you would like to continue helping people with their problems, you learn to take some responsibility first because if he were living in the states, you'd be recommending him a build that would be so overbudget he couldn't afford it!

Then there's the RAM. It's amazing that you personally checked it and didn't notice (or simply didn't care) the glaring "(OC)" lettering next to the 2133 spec. That designation means that in order for the RAM speed to work at 2133 MHz, the memory controller must be manually overclocked. Of course it'll work, but not without putting in a lot of effort first trying to get everything stable. It's not as simple as checking off a memory profile when the memory controller must be OC'ed. And again, there's the price and back order issue associated with it.

Lastly, there's the bottleneck. Contrary to thought, a CPU cannot magically eliminate all bottlenecks just through overclocking. I said he could mitigate the bottleneck, not get rid of it completely. Now, that's assuming that he gets a good stable overclock, but there's two problems: Neither the Athlon II X4 750k nor the motherboard are particularly suited for high overclocks. Overclocking is just as much about having a good CPU as it is a good motherboard. The Athlon II X4 750k has some overclocking headroom, but I'd be surprised if it, and its motherboard would even get to a 400 MHz OC.

Oh and thanks for the advice. I'll be sure to use it.

The 750k can OC easily to 4.5ghz. i have the newer 760k at 4.5ghz without even breaking a sweat. these chips have very high overclock potential. dont believe me? search 'Athlon x4 750k owners club' on google and click the first link. a whole forum thread of people and 750k/760k's oced to a minimum of 4.4ghz. for my OC i actually have a board around the same spec as the one mentioned in the build

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

Oh crap, you live in India? Aw, dude, why didn't you tell us that? India's prices aren't 1:1 when you convert them from USD to Rupees. Hardware in India is significantly more expensive, and it's not guaranteed to have the same parts available as we do in the US. Can you tell us what your budget in rupees please? We'll have to do some searching through Amazon India and flipkart.

About 30,000 र (rs)

And btw snapdeal is also a good site in India.

Btw I love you guys for help (no homo lol ) specially you Deus Gladiorum 😉 😀😀
😉

Unfortunately, 30,000 र worth of parts in India only gets you around $350 worth of parts in the US, maybe even less. Still, I think I got you some pretty good parts, with a bit of an emphasis on future proofing.

Motherboard: Asus P8H61-M-LX3 R2.0 16GB DDR3 Intel Motherboard - Rs. 3810
CPU/Processor: Intel Pentium G2010 2.80GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor - Rs. 3995
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD7790 1GB DDR5 ATI PCI E Graphic Card - Rs. 11685
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB Internal Desktop Hard Drive (ST500DM002) - Rs. 3515
Memory: Corsair Value Select 4GB (1 X 4GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop Memory (CMV4GX3M1A1600C11) - Rs. 2685
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply (CMPSU-430CXV2) - Rs. 3250
Cabinet/Case: Cooler Master Elite 311 ATX Cabinet - Silver (RC-311B-SKN1) - Rs. 2525

Total with shipping and taxes: Rs. 33,015

The grand total is 33,015 र with shipping (and I believe) taxes already included. I don't see any listings about mail-in rebates either.

The motherboard is just a standard low budget motherboard, however I decided to make the build an Intel rather than an AMD. The good thing is, this is an Intel LGA 1155 socket motherboard, meaning when the time is right, you can upgrade yourself to an i3-3220, or better, an i5 from the Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge series without having to replace your motherboard, saving both time and money.

The Intel G2020 is a great budget processor, and it's very new having been released January of this year. It's (apparently) about equivalent to the Athlon II X4 750k, give or take, even though there's 2 fewer cores, Intel has far more efficiency per core than AMD does. Their performance should be similar, and I couldn't find a well enough priced 4 core CPU from AMD nor Intel, so when you're forced to look at a 2 core CPU, Intel is always the winner.

The Graphics Card is an HD 7790. For reference, the Xbox One will be using a graphics card based on this, and no, you shouldn't have to worry about bottlenecking unless the game is especially CPU bound.

The Storage is just a nice Seagate 500 GB, coming in at the standard 7200 RPM. If and when you run out of storage space, it's very easy to get another internal hard drive for the same price.

The memory is only 4 GB, but it's fast and efficient coming in at 1600 MHz with a nice CAS latency of 9.

The PSU is a bit overkill. I checked a PSU calculator and it determined that the minimum wattage recommended for your build is 253 W, and the recommended wattage is 303 W under 100% load. This PSU is 430 W, so it's safe to say you have plenty of headroom for upgrades and/or overclocking. It's also a fantastic brand, and trust me, you don't want a disreputable brand when purchasing the part that sends electrical current through your components.

Lastly there's the case. It looks decent, has a modest I/O front panel set, and from reviews I've read on other sites for the same model, it apparently has good wire management capabilities which is good, because unless you get a modular PSU (which the CX 430 is not), wire management in a case is a plus.

Anyway, hopefully this suits all your needs. Enjoy!

Damn.. two things that are really very wrong with this build.

1. H61 boards might need a Bios Upgrade to support the Ivy Bridge CPU's and hence it is possible that your CPU might not even support the Motherboard and then your board would be like useless.

2. Why the hell are you still recommending a dual core CPU for gaming? I mean seriously, that is not at all ideal for gaming. Now ever game uses more than 2 cores and hence the Pentium Dual Cores literally sucks for gaming. You are way better off with an i3 for a few more thousand bucks. It has 4 threads and hence it is more suited for current games.

PSU Recommendation :- As for the PSU better get the Seasonic 400W 80 Plus Bronze PSU from Flipkart. It is really cheap as for now. Cheaper than Corsair 430W and much better in quality. Just a deal advice.

 

[Onus]

Point #1 is definitely valid. Make sure the board you choose will support your CPU out of the box.
IMHO, point #2 remains untrue. A lot of games are better threaded, that much is true, but few (if any) require a quad-core CPU. This can always be a drop-in upgrade later.
This does bring up balance. If the graphics card is the bottleneck, you can always lower graphical settings to speed up frame rates. If the game is good, it should still be enjoyable. If the CPU is the bottleneck, however, there may not be as much you can do. For that reason, I'd probably rather have something like i3+HD7770 than Pentium+HD7850. An Intel build will have a much higher top-end, but a cheaper AMD quad may end up being the way to go here if future upgrades will be limited or impossible.
I definitely agree that any Seasonic PSU is better than a Corsair CX.

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

@Onus, yeah I agree that a cheaper AMD quad core is the way to go but unfortunately they are not available in India. There is no Athlon II x4 750K on the Indian market. Hence the cheapest CPU that could be considered for gaming here is the i3 3220 for about 7000 rupees. Next is the FX 6300 for about 8000 rupees. We don't have any cheaper choice when it comes to gaming.

And yeah I forgot to mention that the Corsair CX Series PSU's that are in India are not even 80 Plus Bronze ones, they are just 80 Plus.

Indian market sucks for PC Builders.