Question A Windows 11-compatible replacement for an LGA 1151 system ?

[GlamRockCowboy]

I'm currently running a system based on a Gigabyte z170x-Gaming 7 motherboard and an LGA 1151 i7-7700K@4.2 Ghz. The problem lies in the fact that this motherboard does not have the TPM 2.0 feature needed for "native" support of Windows 11. As a result, I'm having to rely on drivers which are outdated. I have tried several times to update those drivers, but invariably, when I do, the system goes blooey, and I have to use a System Restore point to get my PC back up and running.

Because of all of this, I would like to replace the motherboard with one that DOES have TPM 2.0 so that I can run Windows 11 Pro without any difficulty. For financial reasons, I need to reuse the CPU, RAM, etc., as far as possible, Can anyone suggest a suitable LGA 1151 replacement motherboard? Thanks in advance!

 

[stonecarver]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z170X-Gaming-7-rev-10/support#support-dl-driver-sataraidahci

As far as the drivers go Gigabyte has drivers up to Windows 10 that will work for Windows 11.

Or are these the ones you are working with that your trying to update.

If your not having an issue with them there fine being a little out of date.

It's your GPU driver you would want to have up to date.

Is there a specific issue your having that is making you need to find newer drivers.

Just to let you know even If you did find a 1151 motherboard that has the TPM you still can't use the i7-7700K as it's not on the list of CPU's that can run Windows 11 from Microsoft.

You would still have to do the install bypass to ignore the TPM issue/ not supported CPU.

 

[SkyNetRising]

I would like to replace the motherboard with one that can run Windows 11 Pro without any difficulty.
For financial reasons, I need to reuse the CPU, RAM
Can anyone suggest a suitable LGA 1151 replacement motherboard?

Not supported.
Windows 11 support starts with Intel 8th gen cpus.
i7-7700K is not supported.

You will have to change cpu also.

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

Not supported.
Windows 11 support starts with Intel 8th gen cpus.
i7-7700K is not supported.

You will have to change cpu also.

OK, thanks for the reply. Here's a complete list of what I'm running currently:

IObit SysInfo Report

Operation System Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz

(mod edit for readability)

Spoiler: IOBIT info

Memory 57.3 GB Free (64.0 GB Total)
Graphics Card AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP (8.0 GB)
Monitor Generic PnP Monitor (1360 x 768 @ 60 Hz)
Disk Storage 6540.2 GB Free of 9314.1 GB
Audio AMD High Definition Audio Device
Motherboard Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. (Z170X-Gaming 7)
Mouse USB Input Device
Keyboard USB Input Device

Computer System
Computer Name DESKTOP-04DI8HE
User Name User
Organization N/A
Operating System
OS Name Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
OS Version 10.0.22000
Product ID 00331-20090-82204-AA453
System Up Time 11/10/2024 11:36:22 PM
Internet Explorer Version 11.1.22000.0
Microsoft DirectX Version DirectX 12
OpenGL Version 10.0.22000.1042 (WinBuild.160101.0800)
Registry
Maximum Size 4095 MB
Current Size 187 MB
Status OK
Central Processor
CPU Name Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz
Number of Logical Processors 8
Code Name N/A
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Current Clock Speed 4201 Mhz
Max Clock Speed 4201 Mhz
Voltage 1.1V
External Clock 100 Mhz
Serial Number BFEBFBFF000906E9
CPU ID Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9
Socket Designation U3E1
L1 Cache 256 KB
L2 Cache 1024 KB
L3 Cache 8192 KB
Motherboard
Model Z170X-Gaming 7
Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Serial Number Default string
BIOS Name F22m
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
SMBIOS Version F22m
BIOS Date 3/9/2018
BIOS Features
PCI is supported Yes
BIOS is Upgradable (Flash) Yes
BIOS shadowing is allowed Yes
Boot from CD is supported Yes
Selectable Boot is supported Yes
BIOS ROM is socketed Yes
EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) Specification is supported Yes
Int 13h - 5.25 /1.2MB Floppy Services are supported Yes
Int 13h - 3.5 / 720 KB Floppy Services are supported Yes
Int 13h - 3.5 / 2.88 MB Floppy Services are supported Yes
Int 5h, Print Screen Service is supported Yes
Int 14h, Serial Services are supported Yes
Int 17h, printer services are supported Yes
ACPI supported Yes
USB Legacy is supported Yes
Memory Resource
Total Memory 64.0 GB
Used Memory 6.7 GB
Free Memory 57.3 GB
Memory Usage 10%
Physical Memory
Memory Bank BANK 0
Description Physical Memory 0
Device Locator ChannelA-DIMM0
Capacity 16.0 GB
Speed 2133 Mhz
Manufacturer 04CD
Data Width 64 bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank BANK 1
Description Physical Memory 1
Device Locator ChannelA-DIMM1
Capacity 16.0 GB
Speed 2133 Mhz
Manufacturer 04CD
Data Width 64 bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank BANK 2
Description Physical Memory 2
Device Locator ChannelB-DIMM0
Capacity 16.0 GB
Speed 2133 Mhz
Manufacturer 04CD
Data Width 64 bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank BANK 3
Description Physical Memory 3
Device Locator ChannelB-DIMM1
Capacity 16.0 GB
Speed 2133 Mhz
Manufacturer 04CD
Data Width 64 bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Video Adapter
Name AMD Radeon RX 580 2048SP
Video Processor AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6FDF)
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Video Architecture VGA
DAC Type Internal DAC(400MHz)
Memory Size 8.0 GB
Memory Type Unknown
Video Mode 1360 x 768 x 4294967296 colors
Current Refresh Rate 60 Hz
Driver Version 31.0.21921.1000
Driver Date 8/19/2024
Monitor
Name Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Height 768
Screen Width 1360
Status OK
Disk Drives
Name Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB
Media Type Fixed hard disk media
Capability 931.5 GB
Interface Type SCSI
Partitions 3
Total Cylinders 121601
Total Heads 255
Total Sectors 1953520065
Total Tracks 31008255
Tracks Per Cylinder 255
Bytes Per Sector 512
Sectors Per Track 63
S.M.A.R.T Support Yes
Disk Drives
Name CT1000MX500SSD1
Media Type Fixed hard disk media
Capability 931.5 GB
Interface Type IDE
Partitions 1
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Total Heads 255
Total Sectors 1953520065
Total Tracks 31008255
Tracks Per Cylinder 255
Bytes Per Sector 512
Sectors Per Track 63
S.M.A.R.T Support Yes
Disk Drives
Name ST8000AS0002-1NA17Z
Media Type Fixed hard disk media
Capability 7452.0 GB
Interface Type IDE
Partitions 1
Total Cylinders 972801
Total Heads 255
Total Sectors 15628048065
Total Tracks 248064255
Tracks Per Cylinder 255
Bytes Per Sector 512
Sectors Per Track 63
S.M.A.R.T Support Yes
IDE Controller
Name Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Manufacturer Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Manufacturer Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Status OK
Ethernet
Product Name Killer E2400 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Service Name e2xw10x64
Manufacturer Rivet Networks
MAC Address 40:8D:5C:5A:9BE
Ethernet 2
Product Name Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
Service Name e1dexpress
Manufacturer Intel
MAC Address 40:8D:5C:5A:9BC
Bluetooth Network Connection 3
Product Name Bluetooth Personal Area Network Device
Service Name csrpan
Manufacturer Cambridge Silicon Radio Limited
MAC Address 00:1A:7DA:71:13
Sound Device
Name AMD High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices
Status OK
Sound Device
Name AMD High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices
Status OK
Sound Device
Name AMD High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices
Status OK
Sound Device
Name AMD High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices
Status OK
Sound Device
Name AMD High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Advanced Micro Devices
Status OK
Mouse
Name USB Input Device
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Buttons 0
Status OK
Keyboard
Name USB Input Device
Description Enhanced (101- or 102-key)
Function Keys 12
Status OK
USB Controller
Product Name Intel(R) USB 3.1 eXtensible Host Controller - 1.0 (Microsoft)
Manufacturer Generic USB xHCI Host Controller
Protocol Supported Universal Serial Bus
Status OK
USB Controller
Product Name Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 1.0 (Microsoft)
Manufacturer Generic USB xHCI Host Controller
Protocol Supported Universal Serial Bus
Status OK

Can you suggest a good motherboard and CPU combination that would allow me to reuse as much of this hardware as possible while still maintaining acceptable performance? Thanks again for your assistance!

 

[SkyNetRising]

Can you suggest a good motherboard and CPU combination that would allow me to reuse as much of this hardware as possible while still maintaining acceptable performance?

Depends on your budget.
You have to look for motherboard/cpu combo that supports DDR4.
Latest gen hardware from Intel and AMD supports DDR5 only.

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

Depends on your budget.
You have to look for motherboard/cpu combo that supports DDR4.
Latest gen hardware from Intel and AMD supports DDR5 only.

Since I'm on Social Security, I do have to be somewhat careful. As of right now, $300.00 would be the absolute maximum I can justify. I've been checking Amazon, Newegg, and even eBay. I also plan on checking a local shop or two. Again, thanks for your assistance!

 

[SkyNetRising]

As of right now, $300.00 would be the absolute maximum I can justify.

Your budget severely limits your options.
Also - probably your current cpu cooler will not support a different socket. Will need a cpu cooler also.

Something like this would work. A bit over budget though.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($209.98 @ GameStop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $307.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-13 07:20 EST-0500

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

Your budget severely limits your options.
Also - probably your current cpu cooler will not support a different socket. Will need a cpu cooler also.

Something like this would work. A bit over budget though.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($209.98 @ GameStop)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $307.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-11-13 07:20 EST-0500

Thanks for the suggestion! Just to cover all the possibilities, how much would an AMD-based combo cost? Again, I appreciate your willingness to assist me!

 

[USAFRet]

What is your use for this system?

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

Writing, music arranging, AI image creation, general online research.

 

[USAFRet]

Writing, music arranging, AI image creation, general online research.

OK, so mediumly powerful.

Otherwise, I might have suggested a small $300 prebuilt system.

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

OK, so mediumly powerful.

Otherwise, I might have suggested a small $300 prebuilt system.

I should explain that I am very happy with my system's performance. The problem lies in the fact that, since it does not "natively" support Windows 11, any time I try to update my device drivers, the system goes blooey, and I have to use a system restore point to get the system back up and running. Quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of not being able to keep my PC at maximum performance and security without risking a total system collapse! Thanks again for helping me out--I DO appreciate it!

 

[SkyNetRising]

since it does not "natively" support Windows 11, any time I try to update my device drivers, the system goes blooey, and I have to use a system restore point to get the system back up and running.

How are you doing this "update my device drivers" process?
Are you using some 3rd party software for this?

More likely it's a problem with this software (not windows 11).

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

How are you doing this "update my device drivers" process?
Are you using some 3rd party software for this?

More likely it's a problem with this software (not windows 11).

I use Driver Booster by Iobit. I've used their products for years, and they've always given me good service. The problems didn't start until I got my current system. A friend in my church who is experienced in such matters has told me that the problem lies in the fact that the motherboard does not have the TPM 2.0 feature that Windows 11 requires.. I do know that, when this problem occurs, the motherboard setup screen reports "ROM image not updated" and "ROM image update denied." Also, Windows 11's BSOD reports a stop code of "IRQL not less than or equal to," and references "iestore.sys," or something similar. Nothing like this ever happened with any of my earlier systems, most all of which were also equipped with Iobit's software. Also, none of Iobit's other software packages are giving me any problems now.

 

[USAFRet]

I use Driver Booster by Iobit.

Those things are very much not recommended.

They often do far more harm than good.

 

[GlamRockCowboy]

OK, I removed them. I'm still concerned about the drivers situation, though.

 

[USAFRet]

OK, I removed them. I'm still concerned about the drivers situation, though.

The "problem" seems to be two-fold.

1. Win 11 on an unsupported system.
2. Use of 3rd party driver updaters. No telling what they actually did.