Advanced Format (AF) HDDs and Windows 7 Pro

jdevola

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I just configured a new system (X99 MSI Raider with 5820K) and I am planning to install Windows 7 Pro on an M.2 SSD. This is the plan for the new computer, but I am concerned about the portability (being able to move/clone this installation from the SSD to another drive in the future if necessary, like a regular HDD) because I in the meantime been trying to swap HDD in my laptop and have been having difficulty doing this with Windows 7 Home Premium (e.g., when trying to clone the drive on Ubuntu system, I get I/O errors) and I am wondering if the AF might be an issue for Windows 7 (I have read some posts that claim Win 7 does not support AF).

So, back to the issue: Why am I having a hard time cloning a Win 7 OS from the old HDD to the new HDD?

In the past, I have had no problem copying an OS from one drive to another. I just boot to a separate drive (in the past this was under XP), and copy say, drive e: to drive f:, no problem. I can now boot to drive f: (change boot device from BIOS).

To clarify exactly what I am trying that is not working: I have the new computer (X99 Raider with 5820K running Ubuntu 14.04) as the boot OS, connecting the old laptop drive with working Windows 7 Home Premium and the new laptop drive (actually an old good drive from another laptop) that I want to move the Win 7 Home Premium to. The reason is that I got a SMART warning that the old drive is failing, so I am trying to copy over the OS to the new HDD before it fails so I can still use that laptop (yes, it is a Dell XPS 501X).

I have tried just copying the files. I have tried imaging the drive and copying the image to the other drive. I have tried imaging each partition separately and then using gparted to copy each partition over. I have tried using a Windows 7 iso booting from USB and I have tried a Win7 DVD boot to do either restore/recover/fix boot/clean install/etc. Nothing seems to work. Either I get an I/O error (usually as part of the attempted transfer under Ubuntu), or I get to a point (with the USB/DVD boot install attempt) that it asks for "driver media" -- which doesn't make sense if the DVD is in the drive! (yes, I have tried the useless Dell media to no avail).

When I got the laptop, Dell did not send a restore DVD -- at that time the Recovery partition was supposed to be sufficient. But I cannot seem to get the OS to the new drive.

So, now I am thinking either the drive has already passed the point of recovery (though, why can I still boot and use the laptop with the old drive with no problem -- other than the warning the "hard drive failure is imminent"?), OR I am running up against a problem with the AF (Advanced Formatting). Apparently Ubuntu uses AF, so maybe when I copy the partitions, it is not set up for use with Win 7 (assuming Win 7 cannot handle AF)?

I think I will next try doing the transfer using my old XP machine (it worked in the past), but if anybody can suggest a better route, please let me know how I can do this. Thanks so much (and sorry for the book!).

P.S. I should also mention that, yes, the ISO and DVD I have include SP1. Also, I am trying to move from larger drive to smaller...
 
Hi Poprin,

Well, for now I just want this to work for the one laptop: I am trying to copy the Win7 Home Premium from the failing HDD to a working HDD so I can still use that laptop.

But if I cannot get this to work, I am concerned I won't be able to do this on the new computer at some point (e.g., what if I try Win 10 on the SSD, but decide to go back to Win 7 -- how can I know I'll be able to move the Win 7 OS back to the SSD from a regular HDD with no problems?)

Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely give that a try!


2016-01-11 update: Yeah, this will not work since Easeus does not run on Linux (if they had a version for Linux, it is no longer on their site). Someone suggested running it through Wine, but that seems overly complicated. I cannot do this on XP since I don't (currently) have enough SATA-PATA converters, and I am now thinking the best option might be to just throw the laptop in the recycle bin. This should have been simple, but it is just turning out to be a PITA.