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Please remember that EVERYTHING is for sale. In fact you may even hear rumors that it is indeed NOT for sale right up till the point that the deal goes through.

Please reference the buyout of Worldcom/MCI by Verizon...
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Oh I know everything is for sale, I've just never pictured AMD that way since they were shite-broke a few years back. Their good run spoiled my mental image.

To the guy that said Intel might buy AMD - it would not and could not ever happen. The FTC would never, ever, ever approve it.
 
Ouch, sounds like somebody got Pwn'd by a noob using Intel Core 2 Duo technology.
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And I'm sure that word gives you tingles, but why can't Intel keep the same socket for more than five minutes?

Cause intel improves their TECH faster than amd reason being amd is behind and by the time amd catches up Intel will have something new and better out.


Yeah, right. AMD has had the same chipset and socket for 4 years. If Intel is so good they should be able to create technology that's electrically compatible with existing products.

If they can't maybe they should ask AMD how they do it. AMDs dual core plugged right into singe core sockets and quad will plug into dual core sockets.


Intel can't even get off the FSB whereas little AMD has been off it for 4 years. They have had an IMC for the same amount of time.
Whose ahead?
 
Ouch, sounds like somebody got Pwn'd by a noob using Intel Core 2 Duo technology.
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And I'm sure that word gives you tingles, but why can't Intel keep the same socket for more than five minutes?

Cause intel improves their TECH faster than amd reason being amd is behind and by the time amd catches up Intel will have something new and better out.


Yeah, right. AMD has had the same chipset and socket for 4 years. If Intel is so good they should be able to create technology that's electrically compatible with existing products.

If they can't maybe they should ask AMD how they do it. AMDs dual core plugged right into singe core sockets and quad will plug into dual core sockets.


Intel can't even get off the FSB whereas little AMD has been off it for 4 years. They have had an IMC for the same amount of time.
Whose ahead?

In performance, Intel. No one is arguing that AMD has handled some things better than Intel, and that's one of the reasons AMD was tearing Intel a new one for a few years.

I do agree that AMD isn't on its way out yet. A lot rides on Barcelona and how well it's going to be adopted. By the numbers, it should wreck most server spaces, so...well...we'll have to see.
 
To the guy that said Intel might buy AMD - it would not and could not ever happen. The FTC would never, ever, ever approve it.
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I wouldnt bet on that ... the FTC is becoming less consumer orientated by the day. They positively bent over backwards to let Ma bell reform.
 
To the guy that said Intel might buy AMD - it would not and could not ever happen. The FTC would never, ever, ever approve it.
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I wouldnt bet on that ... the FTC is becoming less consumer orientated by the day. They positively bent over backwards to let Ma bell reform.

Good point, can't argue that. On the other hand, there are laws on the books now protecting consumers that weren't when it was originally broken up, so consumers aren't as unprotected as it may seem.
 
posted 2 min after mine and yours is a 3rd source ,not a second.

That said,Its in the air,if amd hits 8 say bye bye. They did it to them selves with planning,as sood says the had a bad case of BADD after k8.

It could be a relief to the whole industry to have some different planners in charge at amd.And for once they might actually do a commercial when things are going good.

look at a 10 year chart from AMD,it looks like the alps.They need money interests with fab ownership,adding another few fabs to the table could really stablize their stock performance.

Just face it Kids Intel is killing amd,brutally murdering the competition and doing it intentionally and with malice and ,and premeditation.
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BS. They had to sell a Fab to keep going. They are suffering because people like you should be fiing a class action lawsuit against Intel for robbing people with NetBurst prices.

Someone filed against nVidia for drivers and that's not hurting THE WHOLE INDUSTRY.


No wonder the rich get richer. The poor people are weak idiots. AMD is actualy killing Intel.
They are obviousy droppig prices to go for Intel's jugular. They must be confident in Barcelona's superiority which wll mean that Core 2 is NOW WORTHLESS OLD CRAP and their prices will HAE TO DROP like a rock.

Unfortunately Intel has 90,000 mouths to feed so they need a much larger cushion. AMD is tryng to poke a hole in it and let the air out. It may work. You fanbois have already said you would dump Intel if Agena kicks C2Q in the a s s.


Imagine the mass defections. Though I wouldn't want most of you.
 
posted 2 min after mine and yours is a 3rd source ,not a second.

That said,Its in the air,if amd hits 8 say bye bye. They did it to them selves with planning,as sood says the had a bad case of BADD after k8.

It could be a relief to the whole industry to have some different planners in charge at amd.And for once they might actually do a commercial when things are going good.

look at a 10 year chart from AMD,it looks like the alps.They need money interests with fab ownership,adding another few fabs to the table could really stablize their stock performance.

Just face it Kids Intel is killing amd,brutally murdering the competition and doing it intentionally and with malice and ,and premeditation.
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BS. They had to sell a Fab to keep going. They are suffering because people like you should be fiing a class action lawsuit against Intel for robbing people with NetBurst prices.

Someone filed against nVidia for drivers and that's not hurting THE WHOLE INDUSTRY.


No wonder the rich get richer. The poor people are weak idiots. AMD is actualy killing Intel.
They are obviousy droppig prices to go for Intel's jugular. They must be confident in Barcelona's superiority which wll mean that Core 2 is NOW WORTHLESS OLD CRAP and their prices will HAE TO DROP like a rock.

Unfortunately Intel has 90,000 mouths to feed so they need a much larger cushion. AMD is tryng to poke a hole in it and let the air out. It may work. You fanbois have already said you would dump Intel if Agena kicks C2Q in the a s s.


Imagine the mass defections. Though I wouldn't want most of you.

You are very optimistic for AMD. I think Barcelona is going to re-gain server footing without much controversy at all, but to say that AMD is going to pile-drive Intel into the dirt is...overly optimistic.
 
No wonder the rich get richer. The poor people are weak idiots. AMD is actualy killing Intel.
They are obviousy droppig prices to go for Intel's jugular. They must be confident in Barcelona's superiority which wll mean that Core 2 is NOW WORTHLESS OLD CRAP and their prices will HAE TO DROP like a rock.
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He has to be a troll ... no sane person is this demented 8)
 
How do you knwo what my thoughts were?
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Simple. Even though you attempt to hide your true thoughts, you deceive yourself by exposing them in your very next post.

Combining Intel's isolationist policies and the creepy people who seem to be in the Brood, I personally won't buy an Intel chip.
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See what I mean. It's not hard to get the truth out of you...just push a few buttons and voila. So don't try to fool us with your "I don't care what CPU is in the PC" kaakaa, cause we're a bit more savvy then you are used to encountering apparently. :roll:
 
So far this year AMD has licensed GPUs for handhelds, Turion for embedded, sold 200mm equipment, will sell more, introduced a new Home platform and a new mobo standard, etc.

What more do you want Wall Street?
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Stop messing around and experimenting, and focus on core profitable business. Too many fingers in too many pies, and suddenly you can't eat. That's what they want.

AMD will be paying more for all those loans they took out soon. If their capitalisation falls any lower, it will be downgraded and the payments will rise whilst the value of the bonds falls lower.

Of course, this is not good for the industry as a whole. Nvidia's large profit announcement this week must have stung even more.
 
No wonder the rich get richer. The poor people are weak idiots. AMD is actualy killing Intel.
They are obviousy droppig prices to go for Intel's jugular. They must be confident in Barcelona's superiority which wll mean that Core 2 is NOW WORTHLESS OLD CRAP and their prices will HAE TO DROP like a rock.
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He has to be a troll ... no sane person is this demented 8)

Y'know, I've gone out of my way in the past to stand up for the Baron's right to express his opinions, but I'll confess, this latest quote is jaw-dropping. 🙁
 
Why are we posting articles on stuff that may happen? This is just an analyst's thoughts and there is absolutely nothing to justify it. This is a non story.

Here is my list of things that may happen in the world of CPUs:
1. Intel may buy Nvidia
2. Intel may buy AMD
3. AMD may release a CPU that outperforms C2D
4. R600 may outperform 8800 GPUs
5. AMD may sell off ATI

All of these things may happen, but than again they may not. Stories of things that may happen are not news. It's news when it happens or at least when there is a statement released by one of the parties involved.
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Intel buying AMD is not likely to happen and if they did prices will go up on cpus.

MS buying AMD chould trun things into intel / apple vs amd / ms
 
Baron,

You are doing it to yourself again...

Please stand tall and for AMD but with dignity and fact. This who is leading stuff is for the birds.

Yeah they have an IMC which at this time helps them to NOT win the performance crown. I hope the K8L is the new definition of Performance for the industry...

Intel unfortunately has proven that the FSB with its minor bumps in speed has not been a throttle point "YET" even with the Quad which everyone (myself included) thought would easily match/exceed that bandwidth. You of all people know that the prefetch and L2 sharing has helped mitigate this.

If you would like to say AMD is a great company (they are) and that they have great products (which they do/did/may) then please do. But don't step outside the bounds of fact.

Fact is AMD is at a loss right now for a counter to the C2D which holds the performance crown. They have something in the works for which they may regain that crown. Sheesssshhhh this is not that hard...

A private infusion of cash may not hurt AMD at all. In fact it may help them. If you have agreat product in the works but have too little monies to get it off the ground (quickly/quicker) then an infusion of renewed support/cash would be welcome.

If however a private firm/conglomerate purchased AMD they would likely be looking at where the profitability of the whole is. Private money tends to slice and dice to maximize profits. By slice and dice I mean sell off divisions where there might not be synergies with the rest of the vision.
 
If however a private firm/conglomerate purchased AMD they would likely be looking at where the profitability of the whole is. Private money tends to slice and dice to maximize profits. By slice and dice I mean sell off divisions where there might not be synergies with the rest of the vision.
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Did you ever see the movie Wall Street? AMD would get a Gordon Gekko treatment. Ripped to shreds and sucked dry.
 
You are very optimistic for AMD. I think Barcelona is going to re-gain server footing without much controversy at all, but to say that AMD is going to pile-drive Intel into the dirt is...overly optimistic
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I'm not being optimistic, I'm saying what it looks like. AMD recently said that Barcelona will debut a t the original Opteron dual core prices. That means that Agena and Kuma will also be where X2 was last year.

Intel will have to drop prices. Especially in server where AMD will retake the 2S space.

As far as the defections, that's what everyone says, that if it's faster they will dump Core 2. I'm not saying they wil drive them to bankruptcy but Intel has a lot larger infrastructure so they are more vulnerable to losses affecting their employees(in terms of layoffs).

Intel has to hope that Barcelona ISN'T 80% faster than Opteron. Cause that means Kum ais faster than C2D and Agena is faster than C2Q. Agena FX will redefine the enthusist desktop and Intel will have to go with two sockets for enthusiasts.

But Intel asked for this war with those crazed Core 2 prices. Hopefully it won't backfire.
 
The thing is, AMD has been promoting system modularity; Fusion, as such, is an interesting concept: no more need to program a bus, you just have to ask for a calculation and it will be made by the most apt component in the ystem; whether it's a CPU's floating point unit or a bad-ass video card...
The socket game does, in fact, put something forward: when you get rid of design limitations, you can basicaly build a compatible system out of odds and ends. I mean, while AMD's 4x4 isn't interesting performance-wise, it is fascinating concept:wide: you can have a computer that acts as a single machine, while equipped with one to eight CPU cores, one to 4 graphics cards, one to two chipsets of a common family... Basically, it's mix n match.
Something Intel hasn't been able to do yet: multiple socket platforms need chipsets designed specifically for them and can't scale as much. Now I know that it's not that important right now, since Intel can still squeeze a few MHz out of FSB, but the relative ease with which AMD and Nvidia can glue together their components to make something new, is pretty interesting.
Now, if memory modules could be thrown wherever one may want in a system, we'd get high performance graphics and sizeable CPUs or astounding CPU perf (with only barebone graphics) with the same basic elements; and you'd just juggle what dedicated or all-purpose processor you'd require for a specific task.

We're not there yet, but AMD is getting close - while Intel isn't even in the race yet.

Which doesn't mean that a C2D doesn't kills a K8. But most investors don't care about actual CPU power: what they care about is deals, flashy presentations and bold moves. Otherwise, Intel stocks would have plummeted ever since they started the P4+Rambus.
 
You are very optimistic for AMD. I think Barcelona is going to re-gain server footing without much controversy at all, but to say that AMD is going to pile-drive Intel into the dirt is...overly optimistic
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I'm not being optimistic, I'm saying what it looks like. AMD recently said that Barcelona will debut a t the original Opteron dual core prices.

Speculation:
That means that Agena and Kuma will also be where X2 was last year.

Speculation:
Intel will have to drop prices. Especially in server where AMD will retake the 2S space.

And AMD would never think of laying off its employees :roll: :roll: :roll:
As far as the defections, that's what everyone says, that if it's faster they will dump Core 2. I'm not saying they wil drive them to bankruptcy but Intel has a lot larger infrastructure so they are more vulnerable to losses affecting their employees(in terms of layoffs).


Speculation:
Intel has to hope that Barcelona ISN'T 80% faster than Opteron. Cause that means Kum ais faster than C2D and Agena is faster than C2Q. Agena FX will redefine the enthusist desktop and Intel will have to go with two sockets for enthusiasts.

But Intel asked for this war with those crazed Core 2 prices. Hopefully it won't backfire.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
No wonder the rich get richer. The poor people are weak idiots. AMD is actualy killing Intel.
They are obviousy droppig prices to go for Intel's jugular. They must be confident in Barcelona's superiority which wll mean that Core 2 is NOW WORTHLESS OLD CRAP and their prices will HAE TO DROP like a rock.
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He has to be a troll ... no sane person is this demented 8)


I take it then you're one of the rich people? If not you're obviously the weak, stupid poor person.

Just like you all say that X2 is now worthless old crap, Barcelona being superior would do the same to Core 2 right? Unless, you're just biased.
 
I hope Hector has read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Barbarians-Gate-Fall-RJR-Nabisco/dp/0060920386
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Maybe we should all chip in and send him a copy of that and a DVD of Wall Street. I'm sure the press would pick it up and flood THG with publicity! 8)
 
I'm not being optimistic, I'm saying what it looks like. AMD recently said that Barcelona will debut a t the original Opteron dual core prices.

Speculation: Yeah cause why intro Kuma at good prices.

That means that Agena and Kuma will also be where X2 was last year.

Speculation: Yeah just like AMD didn't have to right.
Intel will have to drop prices. Especially in server where AMD will retake the 2S space.

And AMD would never think of laying off its employees
Yes they would but they know how to survive on crumbs. Intel doesn't.

As far as the defections, that's what everyone says, that if it's faster they will dump Core 2. I'm not saying they wil drive them to bankruptcy but Intel has a lot larger infrastructure so they are more vulnerable to losses affecting their employees(in terms of layoffs).


Speculation: How is that speculation? If Barcelona (dual) is 80% faster than Opteron dual.......
Intel has to hope that Barcelona ISN'T 80% faster than Opteron. Cause that means Kum ais faster than C2D and Agena is faster than C2Q. Agena FX will redefine the enthusist desktop and Intel will have to go with two sockets for enthusiasts.

But Intel asked for this war with those crazed Core 2 prices. Hopefully it won't backfire.
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Yet another member of the Brood proving how upset you are all that your precius Intel is being taken through all of this by a little company worth 1/10th.
 
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