[SOLVED] [Advice] Custom Build

[salkay]

So I'm building a computer and I chose the following:
Any advice, suggestions or edits to this build please don't hesitate to provide me with your intellectualism, Thanks!

1. ROG Maximus XIII Extreme Motherboard
2. Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake 3.5GHz Eight-Core LGA 1200
3. Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2 NVMe Interface PCIe Gen 4x4 Internal Solid State Drive with 3D TLC NAND "Quantity X2"
4. Western Digital 2 TB 3D NAND SATA 3.0 6GB/s 2.5" Internal SSD "Quantity X2"
5. NVIDIA EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming Triple-Fan 12GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card
6. G.Skill Ripjaws F4-3200C14Q 3200 MHZ CL14-18-18-38 (32GBX4=128 GB)
7. Obsidian 500D RGB SE Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case "If motherboard doesn't fit, i will change it to Obsidian 1000D"
8. EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G+, 80+ Gold 1300W Fully Modular Power Supply "I know this system requires 700-750 watts and 1300 is overkill, its just in case of future upgrade"
9. H150i Pro XT 360mm RGB Water Cooling Kit
10. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    
    
    
    

 

[Hellfire13]

Good part choices, looks like a solid build.
Although there is no possible upgrade path where you will need 1300w, it doesnt matter anyway as too much power is not a bad thing.

 

[salkay]

Good part choices, looks like a solid build.
Although there is no possible upgrade path where you will need 1300w, it doesnt matter anyway as too much power is not a bad thing.

Is there any part that you see as a potential to change to better than those choices?

 

[Hellfire13]

Is there any part that you see as a potential to change to better than those choices?

What is your budget and location and how much is this costing you?

 

[salkay]

What is your budget and location and how much is this costing you?

Cost is $6000 ~ Budget is $6000
Location USA

 

[Zerk2012]

Cost is $6000 ~ Budget is $6000
Location USA

It's really impossible to judge a build when you never say what the PC will be used for.

 

[salkay]

It's really impossible to judge a build when you never say what the PC will be used for.

I'm not looking for judgement, I'm looking for constructive feedback on where I can improve the build before I build it.
As for what it is used for, Engineering work and Gaming, surfing, etc.

Never built a computer before, so i'm trying to build a computer to last 5-10 years without worrying about upgrading.

 

[Bazzy 505]

It is genuinely strange configuration,

it's not really a gaming pc config, no quite a workstation and definatelly not a server grade hardware.

let's start with gaming pc
11900K offers only marginally better performance over 11700K, even 11600K for the matter in games. At that price point AMD can offer more value.
too much memory, more than 32GB is beyond the point of reason above 64GB there is actually tiny performance penalty introduced with most consume grade memory controllers.
psu in an overkill, overprovisioning to that extent makes no sense. By the time you will take full advantage of it, new revision of ATX standard will be implemented and will have to be replaced anyway.
Windows 10 Pro is uncessary for purely gaming rig, home will do just fine.

for workstation use
You would want a something from Nvidia Quadro P6000 ( when on budget) or A6000.
NVMe drive choice would have been much different, steering more toward higher performance with more endurance.
Rocket lake doesn't offer good value in this segments, AMD is much better value in this segment
Windows 10 Pro for Worstation would have been your OS of choice

for server use ... not even worth talking about


It's basically a PC that costs 6K and performs like a 3K gaming pc.

 

[Zerk2012]

I'm not looking for judgement, I'm looking for constructive feedback on where I can improve the build before I build it.
As for what it is used for, Engineering work and Gaming, surfing, etc.

Never built a computer before, so i'm trying to build a computer to last 5-10 years without worrying about upgrading.

What software for the work?
In general your spending way to much money for the performance your going to get.

Their a difference in building a PC for your needs and just picking the most expensive parts you can find.

EDIT Example the processor.

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i9-11900k-vs-intel-core-i7-11700k

Then their also buying a 800 buck motherboard.

 

[Eximo]

If Intel is preferred, I would argue for an i9-10850k, get yourself 10 cores. Though that would make populating all the M.2 slots impossible. Still, there are board that offer additional M.2 ports through add on cards, and you can always get your own PCIe to M.2 card.



Motherboard only needs to cost you about $300 for some high end features like thunderbolt and 2.5 or 10 Gbps networking. That much local storage may be overkill and unwise, better to have network attached storage and a fast connection.

Unless you can justify 128GB of memory as something you will run into a lot, definitely downsize there. 4x16GB would at least let you up the speed to 3600Mhz.

Quadro do work better with certain engineering applications, but not all. This is certainly something to look into. I would also argue that an RTX3090 actually makes more sense for a combined workstation than a 3080Ti, that 24GB of VRAM can actually prove very useful for detailed 3D renders.

 

[Why_Me]

So I'm building a computer and I chose the following:
Any advice, suggestions or edits to this build please don't hesitate to provide me with your intellectualism, Thanks!

1. ROG Maximus XIII Extreme Motherboard
2. Core i9-11900K Rocket Lake 3.5GHz Eight-Core LGA 1200
3. Western Digital Black SN850 2TB M.2 NVMe Interface PCIe Gen 4x4 Internal Solid State Drive with 3D TLC NAND "Quantity X2"
4. Western Digital 2 TB 3D NAND SATA 3.0 6GB/s 2.5" Internal SSD "Quantity X2"
5. NVIDIA EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming Triple-Fan 12GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card
6. G.Skill Ripjaws F4-3200C14Q 3200 MHZ CL14-18-18-38 (32GBX4=128 GB)
7. Obsidian 500D RGB SE Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case "If motherboard doesn't fit, i will change it to Obsidian 1000D"
8. EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G+, 80+ Gold 1300W Fully Modular Power Supply "I know this system requires 700-750 watts and 1300 is overkill, its just in case of future upgrade"
9. H150i Pro XT 360mm RGB Water Cooling Kit
10. Windows 10 Pro 64 bit

The i9 11900K is power hungry and overpriced imo. I'd look at the 11 gen i7's.

This board paired with that cpu and a decent cpu cooler allows you to run it with the power limits turned off in the bios. It's a round a bout way of OC those locked cpu's as it keeps them in turbo boost mode for longer.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119392
ASUS TUF GAMING H570-PRO WIFI $189.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-11700f-core-i7-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118263
Intel Core i7-11700F $319.99

64GB seems more than plenty by looking at what you'll be using your build for.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K8G32C16U4B/dp/B083TSJ8N4/?th=1
Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3200MHz 64GB (32GBx2) CL16 $351.99

Fast, cheap atm, and a decent warranty.

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS2130-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B0869C35V2/
PNY CS2130 2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe Gen3 x4 Internal SSD $223.99

TUF GAMING H570-PRO WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

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www.asus.com

 

[NoizePMP]

I hope the G-skill ram works on this Asus mainboard. I have traded all my Ram kits (corsair/hyper x) with friends who had Asus mainboards (both Intel and amd) and G-skill problems. Memory runs fine but not on the stated speed. 3200/3600 modules only running on 2400. Xms on and setting the bios by hand did not matter. Different kits. Same problem. Popped them on MSI Intel and AMD mainboards. 3600 with no problems. I even tried a memkit that should be supported according to Asus and G-skill on an Asus Intel z270a prime a z390a prime and a ROG Maximus XI z390 mainboard and the speed was only 2400. This was a G-skill trident z ramkit optimised for Intel. A Corsair dominator kit ran 3600 with no problems. The Intel optimized kit ran flawless on a very cheap mainboard AMD MSI B450 vdh max board.

 

[Udyr]

I'm not looking for judgement, I'm looking for constructive feedback on where I can improve the build before I build it.
As for what it is used for, Engineering work and Gaming, surfing, etc.

Never built a computer before, so i'm trying to build a computer to last 5-10 years without worrying about upgrading.

To provide constructive feedback, people need to ask questions. These might sound strange to you, but you're here asking for advice... so might as well reply to those taking time to read and walk you through recommendations.

As many have pointed out, this costs too much to do "nothing particularly great". For gaming at 1440p or over, the 3080 will handle most of the load. For productivity, there are other alternatives that would provide similar performance for a lower price tag.

Their a difference in building a PC for your needs and just picking the most expensive parts you can find.

...in fewer words: this

 

[Hellfire13]

Cost is $6000 ~ Budget is $6000
Location USA

I would do something like this...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor | $549.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $215.24 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Royal 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $759.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $397.00 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $397.00 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LE iCX3 Video Card | $1499.99 @ Adorama
Case | Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB SE ATX Mid Tower Case | $264.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $179.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $4438.19
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-19 17:47 EDT-0400 |

This will give you similar performance as 11900k in gaming and better performance in productivity.
128gb RAM might be overkill though.

 

[salkay]

I would do something like this...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor | $549.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $215.24 @ Amazon
Memory | G.Skill Trident Z Royal 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $759.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $397.00 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $397.00 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LE iCX3 Video Card | $1499.99 @ Adorama
Case | Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB SE ATX Mid Tower Case | $264.99 @ Corsair
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $179.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $4438.19
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-19 17:47 EDT-0400 |

This will give you similar performance as 11900k in gaming and better performance in productivity.
128gb RAM might be overkill though.

Thank you guys for your precious time, I will study all the options provided here today and make a choice.
Appreciate your kindness and efforts!

 

[Zerk2012]

I'm not looking for judgement, I'm looking for constructive feedback on where I can improve the build before I build it.
As for what it is used for, Engineering work and Gaming, surfing, etc.

Never built a computer before, so i'm trying to build a computer to last 5-10 years without worrying about upgrading.

Not to try to hurt your feelings don't take anything personal here but your saying for 5 to 10 years that is completely not going to happen unless you get stuck in like 2023. 5 years from now tech will be so advanced anything you buy now will be slow compared to what is available. In general you can get about 6 years or so out of a processor but need a video card upgrade in the middle to keep up with the current games.

Trying to future proof a PC is just not possible because anything you buy today can be replaced next year with better/faster parts.

You can buy over on the video card and yes make it last a bit longer BUT that comes with a high price tag and 3 years from now they will be much faster cards than that one for a lower price.

For buying a lot more memory than you need now the same thing DDR5 is right around the corner it takes it about a year to catch up with the performance of DDR4 if it goes like it has in the past. I'm using about 20GB of my 32GB in my PC if I had 128GB nothing would change in the speed of anything doing what I do. (this is the uses in my workload nothing even near that gaming)

Now spending a massive amount on G4 drives just a waste of money you can google G4 vs G3 vs SATA SSD and see that for yourself. Generic benchmarks have nothing to do with the real world!

For your drive setup you never said what to be used for and why ( might need to research a scratch drive)

Without a scratch drive setup I would use the 1TB M.2 for the OS and programs, the regular SSD's one for gaming and one for work you would probably never notice any difference. I don't see any reason to ad more drives (except for backup) until you need more space.

Different case it has a ton of room in the top for a AIO. Case fans RGB matches the cooler.

About 2400 less same performance well so close it don't matter even with the overpriced video card.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor | $409.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler | Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $144.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI MAG Z590 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard | $264.99 @ Newegg
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory | $329.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $149.90 @ Amazon
Storage | Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $208.31 @ Walmart
Storage | Crucial MX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $208.31 @ Walmart
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LE iCX3 Video Card | $1499.99 @ Adorama
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P500A ATX Mid Tower Case | $114.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply | Corsair RMx (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $189.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan | Corsair ML120 PRO 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fan | $39.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan | Corsair ML120 PRO 47.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack | $101.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $3662.44
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-19 20:37 EDT-0400 |

 

[Hellfire13]

Thank you guys for your precious time, I will study all the options provided here today and make a choice.
Appreciate your kindness and efforts!

This will give you same performance without the eye candy...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor | $549.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler | $109.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard | $215.24 @ Amazon
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory | $375.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $429.99 @ B&H
Storage | Samsung 870 QVO 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $347.07 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING LE iCX3 Video Card | $1499.99 @ Adorama
Case | Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case | $109.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $179.99 @ Best Buy
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $3817.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-20 03:57 EDT-0400 |