Advice on a "final" build list

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Looking for some opinions on a pretty final build I put together for casual use/light gaming. Any input+explanation (especially for the points listed below) would be appreciated!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.39 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.89 @ Directron)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Strix Video Card ($319.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ Best Buy)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 24.0" 60Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Other: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular ($69.99)
Total: $1378.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-26 13:27 EDT-0400

A few points:
1) CPU Cooler - is the Intel stock cooler sufficient for a 6500? Since I'm not overclocking, I don't how valuable/necessary a aftermarket cooler is. If it is necessary, is there a better option (for about the same price) than the Hyper 212 Evo? I used this in a previous build, but that was a few years ago.
2) MOBO - Is a Z170 board necessary for this build? I was thinking of getting a slighter cheaper H170 (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B012N6LM1Y/?tag=pcpapi-20) or B150 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128881&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=)
I'm mostly concerned if the H170/B150 boards will have all the necessary ports for what I will likely need, which is just the basics (dual monitors HDMI, connectors for multiple HDD/SSD, USB 3.0, etc). Also, will the form factor (the latter two suggestions being microATX) affect functionality/performance of the build?
3) MONITOR - I listed two because I was considering between an good IPS panel vs a good TN panel. I feel like I'd prefer the IPS panel, but was wondering if there are better options for the same price. (Same goes for the TN panel)
4) CASE - Will the Blackhawk fit everything properly (I know this is an older case design). I'm worried that the current CPU cooler + RAM headers won't fit properly, especially if I switch to a microATX board. Otherwise I was considering a Fractal Design case (5? Define S?), but I still have the same question about fitting everything into the fractal design case.
Thanks!
 
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with Pascal all manufacturers are almost leveled.

as for Gigabyte: the Gaming & UD-Series are the best quality series they have
as for the linked board, looking at the specs it looks solid. only the sound chip is a bit of a downfall.
The Gigabyte GA-H170-D3HP/Gigabyte...
it's a good build.

the stock cooler is sufficient for the 6500, but an aftermarket cooler will be quieter and keep it cooler. personally I'm not a fan of stock coolers.
there's no need for a Z170 board. especially since this is a really cheap one. better get a H170 board for the same price, it will must certainly be of better quality. the Z170 is only worth it if you want to OC or need a specific feature that the H170 doesn't provide you with.
personally I don't like µATX boards as they are a bit too small for my taste. the Define will fit it with ease (the Define S has no optical drive bay, gotta go for the R5, one of the best cases in it's class, or the ripoff, the Thermaltake F31 suppressor which is even better imho). for the BlackHawk I haven't found CPU cooler specs, but I guess you should be fine. an ATX case of that size should take the cooler.

 


Interesting. I just stand by Asus products since I've used them in the past with good experiences. That said, the 1060 is really only there as a placeholder. I haven't decided if I want to spend more for a better GPU (I'll be using a old GPU for the time being until I decide).

What do you think of the B150/H170 I linked? I'm really not all that familiar with the variations of the boards (especially the 902384 variations Gigabyte has on the same chipset).
 


Thanks.
Any recommendations on a good/cheap cpu cooler? Or will the Hyper 212 Evo suffice?

Similar to the previous reply, what about the H170 board I linked? Is there an alternative board you can suggest?
 


with Pascal all manufacturers are almost leveled.

as for Gigabyte: the Gaming & UD-Series are the best quality series they have
as for the linked board, looking at the specs it looks solid. only the sound chip is a bit of a downfall.
The Gigabyte GA-H170-D3HP/Gigabyte GA-H170-D3H offer a better sound solution but are in the region ~100bucks
I also heard a lot of good things about the ASRock Fatality series
 
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So my follow up question if I can shift the Hyper 212 Evo to clear the RAM headers? The website lists RAM clearance at 37mm, but the RAM listed is at 42mm size. If it's not recommended, is there an another good CPU cooler (for the same price) that you might recommend, or shuold I stick to the stock cooler?
 


you could of course go for smaller RAM.
GSkill Values are onle 31mm
as are Corsair Vengeance LPX

 


The 235 USD MSi gtx 1060 is the 3gb model which is really not recommended. the 6gb version I would recommend if he can find it at a good price (currently at 399 $ , because of low stock (I would wait for that to be in stock at a lower that 300 price, also you can get a gigabyte or evga 6gb implementation)). I don't recommend to overpay for the strix.
An aftermarket cooler is much quieter and will keep lower temperatures but for your cpu, I recommend the Hyper 212 Evo is fine and will keep lower noise. The connectivity on a H170 will be sufficient for your needs imo.
In terms of ram, I recommend a Corsair Veangeance LPX 2400mhz kit (usually only 2133mhz is stated as supported but 2400mhz will work fine) (P.S. I have a 3000mhz kit, since I am on Z170).
Also, you can also go with an aftermarket RX 480 since it has more vram, memory bandwidth and tends to fare better with DX12.
 
Here is a better one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.39 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($424.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VP239H-P 23.0" 60Hz Monitor ($138.00 @ Newegg)
Other: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Full Modular ($69.99)
Total: $1229.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-26 14:19 EDT-0400
 


Are the Values model reputable? I've rarely seen them recommended on build lists. As for the Corsairs, I just personally prefer G.Skill, and would rather switch CPU coolers to accommodate rather than vice versa.

 


That is a very nice looking budget case. Might consider that.
 


If you read my explanation, I'm debating between IPS vs TN panel, and was looking for opinions on which is preferable/better options for similar prices for each.
 
Coolermaster mistakenly believes that its name is worth something. In my experience, in EVERY market where Coolermaster has products (HSF, fans, cases), a competitor will offer similar or higher quality for a similar or lower price. For example, one of Cryorig, Enermax, or Deepcool/Gammax would be my choice for the cooler.
With the possible exception of VR (for which you'd want a stronger card anyway), very few games need more than 3GB of VRAM for 1920x1080, and that's only on their highest settings and/or with lots of AA. Since you have specified "casual use / light gaming," you might find even a 2GB card sufficient.
 


I've seen the Cryorig H7 and the Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 recommended/listed in the site reviews. Which would you recommend? I'm slightly leaning towards the H7 because of the advertising of "limitless RAM clearance". Also, do you have any idea when/how newegg restocks? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&ignorebbr=1