Question After CPU upgrade, PC now restarts when gaming, ?

[Vatra]

Hello,

I purchased a brand new Ryzen 7 5700X to upgrade from a Ryzen 7 2700X and after sometime when playing games, it shutdowns and starts back up, like hitting the reset button.

I’ve uninstalled the chipset driver and installed it again

Reinstalled ryzen master cause it said unsupported cpu, after that it worked

Reseting the bios by shorting the pins even tho it already was bc of new cpu detected prompt

Fresh Windows install one month ago

Temps are perfect on everything when gaming


I had running simultaneously for 30 mins

ytb 8k video with 50+ chrome tabs for ram

furmark stress test for gpu

cinebench r23 for cpu

and a game of pubg 4k ultra with the help of nvidia res scaling for 4k

I had in pubg 17 fps and a lot of stutter but it worked

Temps were good all of the time when i did the stress test !

they are in celsius
Cpu - 86
Gpu - 83
VRMS - one of them reached 106 everything else was under 70
i have a fan drawing air across the vrms
and it didn’t crash…

The last 2 crashes were like this

first crash: 2 hours in to pubg after loading 4 different maps the 5th different map crashed when i landed so it’s because of power spikes ?


second crash: 3 hours in to dayz camping a military base for 30 mins and it crashed, so i didn’t load anything new…. i even killed a player in the base so it’s not because of the models being rendered to cause a power spike. i just stood still in a place.



This didn’t happend on the 2700x which has a tdp of 125w vs the 65w of the 5700x, i even had the 2700x paired with a 1080ti back then which sometimes reached 280+ watts so the psu i think is ok !

PBO enabled or not doesn’t make any difference in terms of stability


CPU: Ryzen 7 5700x

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450m DS3H latest bios ver. f64

Ram: 2x8GB 2400mhz

(kvr24n17s8/8 | ted48g2400c16bk)

COOLER: Noctua NH D15

SSD: Kingston a2000 500GB, A400 240GB

HDD: WD Blue 1TB

GPU: Lenovo OEM RTX 3070

PSU: Seasonic M12II EVO 620w 80+ Bronze

Chassis: Aqiris Rigel

OS: Win 10 Pro

Monitors -

24” BENQ Zowie XL2411P 144Hz

24” Samsung LS24E65UDW-EN

32” Samsung TV

all 1080p



i know the ram combination is crazy and slow but they’ve been togheter on my first prebuilt on an asus h110m r paired with a i5 7400

and this mobo with a r5 2600, r7 2700x and now the r7 5700x.

and they worked flawless!

if anyone has some new methods of testing the hardware please tell me !

TLR after upgrading to a lower tdp cpu, pc crashes after playing games for a couple of hours.

 

[Eugene$$]

"
they are in celsius
Cpu - 86
Gpu - 83
VRMS - one of them reached 106 everything else was under 70
i have a fan drawing air across the vrms
and it didn’t crash…"

high temps you got there.. upgrade your cooling and get a mesh case

that mobo has no vrm heatsink

 

[Vatra]

"
they are in celsius
Cpu - 86
Gpu - 83
VRMS - one of them reached 106 everything else was under 70
i have a fan drawing air across the vrms
and it didn’t crash…"

high temps you got there.. upgrade your cooling and get a mesh case

that mobo has no vrm heatsink

but it still doesnt make sense how does the 5700x draw more power than a 2700x?
i mean gigabyte says it goes up to a 5950x

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

but it still doesnt make sense how does the 5700x draw more power than a 2700x?
i mean gigabyte says it goes up to a 5950x

Did you update the bios before you installed the new CPU? If not, this is likely your problem.

Also, although your PSU (Seasonic M12) is not really suitable for a modern gaming machine. In it's day it was good value. Given how old it is, this could also be your issue.

Also, your mobo has weak power phases , IIRC it's 4+2. Don't try to overclock, as you will have even more crashes.

If you are overclocking, or using PBO, then turn it off and test again.

 

[Vatra]

Did you update the bios before you installed the new CPU? If not, this is likely your problem.

Also, although your PSU (Seasonic M12) is not really suitable for a modern gaming machine. In it's day it was good value. Given how old it is, this could also be your issue.

Also, your mobo has weak power phases , IIRC it's 4+2. Don't try to overclock, as you will have even more crashes.

If you are overclocking, or using PBO, then turn it off and test again.

Bios was updated for the 2700x a long time ago, overclocking it's out of question, i will try to test on default mode, an interesting thing is that it draws 168w with pbo on cinebench r23 with a score of 14580 is that normal power draw ?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Bios was updated for the 2700x a long time ago

This is why the 5700x won't boot. You need to put the 2700x back in, do a bios update, and then the 5700x should run fine.

 

[Vatra]

This is why the 5700x won't boot. You need to put the 2700x back in, do a bios update, and then the 5700x should run fine.

I meant to say, it was updated *on the 2700x* and i already stated the latest bios is installed, Tested the cpu with default mode and still crashes after a couple hours of gaming, is this motherboard that bad

 

[punkncat]

That particular motherboard is a budget option and I wouldn't particularly be comfortable putting anything higher than an R5 in it. The power delivery is basically a joke, and a bad one at that.

I cannot comment specifically to the power supply issue that may exist as I am not familiar with the unit you have.
I would purchase a new mid to high quality motherboard to use with the 5xxx, put the 2xxx back on the other mobo and sell them down the way.

 

[Vatra]

That particular motherboard is a budget option and I wouldn't particularly be comfortable putting anything higher than an R5 in it. The power delivery is basically a joke, and a bad one at that.

I cannot comment specifically to the power supply issue that may exist as I am not familiar with the unit you have.
I would purchase a new mid to high quality motherboard to use with the 5xxx, put the 2xxx back on the other mobo and sell them down the way.

well i sold the 2700x last friday evening and the next day i got the 5700x, the vrms temps without pbo when gaming never reach more than 65, but yeah im gonna get a x570 from msi or asus to try overcloking, Thanks for the support guys !

 

[mdd1963]

C-States settings causes lots of havoc with stability with some RYzen CPUs/mainboards...(disabling/enabling/tinkering with settings!)

 

[Vatra]

C-States settings causes lots of havoc with stability with some RYzen CPUs/mainboards...(disabling/enabling/tinkering with settings!)

I have found the problem, It's because of power spikes in the gpu.
After the switch to the 5700x i wasn't bottlenecking the 3070 anymore, so that means more power needed !

I started by trying to see what exactly causes the crash, so i fired up DayZ offline mode which is just a server with what mods i want, to help me "cheat"
so i nocliped around the map which is HUGE in this game and after 1 min of noclip the pc crashed.
did that for 5 more times and it crashed.
so by doing this i now have a proper testing method.

tinkered with the cpu and still crashed, so that means the cpu is good and it's not the one causing the crash !
after some googling i found a couple of guys rocking the same cpu/gpu combo fine on this mobo, so it's not the mobo either.

i thought that the gpu has nothing to do with this because it worked fine on the 2700x, oh how wrong was i
so i raised the gpu power limit bc i thought it was putting more strain on the cpu, and it still crashed.
Then i lowered the game graphics to the lowest and did my test by nocliping around, opened task manager to see the gpu was at 40% and it was not crashing, did this for 15 mins straight, flying around the hole map and still no crash, put the game back on extreme graphics and after 30 seconds the pc crashed !

so i just undervolted the gpu and everything works fine !

my theory is that this spikes around 300+ watts for couple milliseconds just enough to trip. my psu has two 12v rails each of them having 24 amps so one rail has 288w
and this lenvo rtx 3070 has 1x8 pin so yeah.....
and it's and old psu, modern psus have much better power spikes protection.