Aftermarket CPU coolers without overclocking.. really necessary?

[And84]

i'm building up a pc, but different expert told me opposite opinions.. and i don't know whether buy an aftermarket cooler for my core i7 4790 ..

 

[Znoxz]

You don't need an Aftermarket CPU coolers the stock cooler should be enough.
But if the cpu stock cooler get too loud then the hyper 212 is a good cooler for $20-$30

 

[And84]

Then it's only a matter of more or less noise? i don't care about noise, i just don't want my CPU to melt down

 

[Znoxz]

If you don't care about noise then stock is fine.

 

[danny2000]

it totally depends on how you plan to use your computer. It is not limited to just overclocking.
if you are running your processor on full-load for any period then it will help.

I run BONIC doing tasks for World Community Grid which stresses the processor and creates heat.
I do not overclock.

I have a I7 4770 (non K version) and have a Cooler master Hyper 212 EV0 and my temps fluctuates second to second from 38c to 54c. Before I added the Hyper 212 EVO, I was getting a pretty steady 77c.

What do you plan to use your computer to do?

 

[And84]

it will be a gaming pc, here are the specifics:


Motherboard : ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER

http://www.alza.cz/asus-maximus-vii-ranger-d1481447.htm

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CPU: Intel core i7 4790
http://www.alza.cz/intel-core-i7-4790-d1481126.htm
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GPU: ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5
http://www.alza.cz/asus-gtx770-dc2oc-2gd5-d435172.htm
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Power Unit : Corsair RM850
http://www.alza.cz/EN/corsair-rm850-d466462.htm
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Hard Drive:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3000GB s Advanced Format
http://www.alza.cz/seagate-barracuda-7200-12-3000gb-s-advanced-format-d285784.htm

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Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB 7mm + Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2000GB s Advanced Format

http://www.alza.cz/kingston-ssdnow-v300-240gb-d368939.htm
http://www.alza.cz/seagate-barracuda-7200-12-2000gb-s-advanced-format-d285783.htm

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Case Fan: NOCTUA NF-F12 PWM
http://www.alza.cz/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-d289675.htm

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Optic Drive: ASUS DRW-24F1ST černá
http://www.alza.cz/asus-drw-24f1st-cerna-d462034.htm

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Kingston 8 gigabytes KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 HyperX blu Edition
http://www.alza.cz/EN/kingston-8gb-kit-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-hyperx-blu-editon-d245861.htm

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Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.alza.cz/cooler-master-haf-932-advanced-d303394.htm

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Microsoft Windows 8.1 ENG 64-bit (OEM)
http://www.alza.cz/microsoft-windows-8-1-eng-64-bit-oem-d484107.htm

 

[Znoxz]

it will be a gaming pc, here are the specifics:


Motherboard : ASUS MAXIMUS VII RANGER

http://www.alza.cz/asus-maximus-vii-ranger-d1481447.htm

---
CPU: Intel core i7 4790
http://www.alza.cz/intel-core-i7-4790-d1481126.htm

___
GPU: ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5
http://www.alza.cz/asus-gtx770-dc2oc-2gd5-d435172.htm
___
Power Unit : Corsair RM850
http://www.alza.cz/EN/corsair-rm850-d466462.htm
___

Hard Drive:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3000GB s Advanced Format
http://www.alza.cz/seagate-barracuda-7200-12-3000gb-s-advanced-format-d285784.htm

o

Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB 7mm + Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2000GB s Advanced Format

http://www.alza.cz/kingston-ssdnow-v300-240gb-d368939.htm
http://www.alza.cz/seagate-barracuda-7200-12-2000gb-s-advanced-format-d285783.htm

___

Case Fan: NOCTUA NF-F12 PWM
http://www.alza.cz/noctua-nf-f12-pwm-d289675.htm

___

Optic Drive: ASUS DRW-24F1ST černá
http://www.alza.cz/asus-drw-24f1st-cerna-d462034.htm

___


Kingston 8 gigabytes KIT DDR3 1600MHz CL9 HyperX blu Edition
http://www.alza.cz/EN/kingston-8gb-kit-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-hyperx-blu-editon-d245861.htm

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Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
http://www.alza.cz/cooler-master-haf-932-advanced-d303394.htm

___

Microsoft Windows 8.1 ENG 64-bit (OEM)
http://www.alza.cz/microsoft-windows-8-1-eng-64-bit-oem-d484107.htm

For gaming only the stock cooler is fine.
I would get an H1 or H97 motherboard since your not overclocking.
850w is alot of power unless your planning to sli/crossfire a good 550w-650w should be fine.

 

[And84]

Yeah the SLI/Crossfire is planned for the future But in case i buy the aftermarket cooler at a later time, would it be trickier to install?

 

[Znoxz]

It not that hard to install depending on the cooler.
I know that the hyper 212 is pretty easy.

 

[danny2000]

Aftermarket coolers are pretty much used mainly by gamers.

 

[And84]

Aftermarket coolers are pretty much used mainly by gamers.

i really don't know what to do.. 50% of the people tells me the stock cooler is enough, the other 50% says it's not 🙁

 

[Znoxz]

Aftermarket coolers are pretty much used mainly by gamers.

i really don't know what to do.. 50% of the people tells me the stock cooler is enough, the other 50% says it's not 🙁

Use the stock cooler for now if you notice the temp going over 70c while gaming then buy aftermarket cooler.
I don't own a 4790 but my 8350 stock cooler work fine only reason I brought an aftermarket cooler was to overclock it.

 

[danny2000]

Aftermarket coolers are pretty much used mainly by gamers.

i really don't know what to do.. 50% of the people tells me the stock cooler is enough, the other 50% says it's not 🙁

Use the stock cooler for now if you notice the temp going over 70c while gaming then buy aftermarket cooler.
I don't own a 4790 but my 8350 stock cooler work fine only reason I brought an aftermarket cooler was to overclock it.

Good advice. Your case also has a cut out so that you can more easily hook up the cooler's backplate without having to remove the motherboard. Although, it can still be a bit difficult to put the actual heatsink on when it is in the case. Not so much difficult, but more to see if it is on properly.

 

[jaimelmiel]

When it comes comes to cooling I get the best cooler I can get. We all will stress that cpu. It is just a matter of when with very few exceptions. Previous posts have brought tis out. When it comes to cooling my cpu I try to get the best cooler I can get even if it costs more, It may be called overkill, But when it comes to cooling a computer and its parts better to have overkill for safety 's sake.
P.S. Your case comes with all the necessary Fans, There are 3 230mm Fans and 1 140mm rear exhaust.. If you want to add a Noctua fan, which by the way are excellent, you could hange the 140mm. I would get one with as high cfm as possible.

 

[danny2000]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

 

[And84]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

 

[Znoxz]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

 

[And84]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

Ok! and what about my idea of thinking about an aftermarket cpu cooler just once noticed hard temps?

 

[Znoxz]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

Ok! and what about my idea of thinking about an aftermarket cpu cooler just once noticed hard temps?

That probably for the best even while gaming 4790 shouldn't reach 70c unless overclock.

 

[And84]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

Ok! and what about my idea of thinking about an aftermarket cpu cooler just once noticed hard temps?

That probably for the best even while gaming 4790 shouldn't reach 70c unless overclock.

Then i probably don't need an afm cooler?

 

[danny2000]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

Ok! and what about my idea of thinking about an aftermarket cpu cooler just once noticed hard temps?

That probably for the best even while gaming 4790 shouldn't reach 70c unless overclock.

It very well could reach 70c under full or near full-load. If you have the $30 or so now, I would buy it as it won't hurt a thing to have it and not really need it. Either way, it will still keep your system running cooler than the stock heatsink, which is good.

 

[Znoxz]

you can pretty-much fit any cooler into your particular case: CPU cooler height:172.1mm regarding height...http://www.coolermaster.com/case/full-tower/haf-932-advanced/
You'll have to check to see if any memory or slots might get blocked with certain types of ram on your motherboard.

What do you mean with the memory? Do you think i can get RAM - MOBO compatibility issues?

No it just sometime the cpu cooler are so big it block part of the ram slot.

Ok! and what about my idea of thinking about an aftermarket cpu cooler just once noticed hard temps?

That probably for the best even while gaming 4790 shouldn't reach 70c unless overclock.

It very well could reach 70c under full or near full-load. If you have the $30 or so now, I would buy it as it won't hurt a thing to have it and not really need it. Either way, it will still keep your system running cooler than the stock heatsink, which is good.

The stock cooler were made and tested to work with the cpu so it should be fine if not overclock. Plus if the 4790 temp does get too high it will shut itself down to avoid permanent damage.

 

[danny2000]

The stock coolers are made and tested to work with the cpu for average user usage, and not for extended full-load usage. Gaming (depending on the game) often puts the CPU at full load for extended periods of time, thus exceeding the regular Internet/Youtube user.

 

[Znoxz]

The stock coolers are made and tested to work with the cpu for average user usage, and not for extended full-load usage. Gaming (depending on the game) often puts the CPU at full load for extended periods of time, thus exceeding the regular Internet/Youtube user.

Stock cooler are fine for gaming. When I use my stock cooler for extended periods of gaming it never allow my cpu to reach 55c. Even in prime95 never reach 56c and prime95 is overkill for a cpu. Plus if the cpu temp ever get too high it would shut itself down to avoid permanent damage. If the op want to save some money just stick with the stock cpu cooler unless it necessary to go aftermarket cooler. Again just monitor the temp while gaming and if it reach over 70c buy aftermarket until then stock is okay. I recommend HWMonitor to monitor cpu temp.

 

[danny2000]

You don't want your CPU to get to the point where it is throttling. If you are throttling, you def. need an aftermarket cooler.