Alienware 13 r3 vs msi gs63vr stealth pro, HELP?

[CosmicWolf293]

Budget: €2K
* better display for the same price.
* portability.
* better performance.
* best build quality.
* best battery life.

Also is the display for alienware 13 r3 too small for use, say like cad and solidworks.
I am an engineering student. Right now I am leaning towards alienware 13. Help appreciated! Thanks.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

You have a problem here:

I opened my engineering consulting firm in 1990. I build our desktops and all lappies are purchased from a Clevo Distributor

1. AutoCAD runs best on nVidia GTX GFX cards as does Maya. Solidworks, needs a Quadro or the slower Fire Pro series cards. The dilemma ... if ya buy the GTX, you can't do SW, if you buy the Quadro, you are gimped in Maya, AutoCAD and everything else making your lappie much less suitable for gaming and other entertainment purposes. One solution, use the Quadrp on desktop and GTX in lappie.

2. Without looking at the relative specs, all things being equal, I'd take the MSI ... they are essentially the only laptop vendor of significance that actually "makes" a laptop. Everybody else buys them from an ODM and slaps their logo on it.

3. OTOH, Clevo custom builds every laptop to YOUR specific needs... and fpr a cost that is usually less then what you'd get from the mass market brands


I am not familiar w/ the European distributors but here's one in UK. Clevo distributors are prohibited from advertising prices lower than set limit, but you can negotiate with them by calling or e-mail

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-17/

17" IPS Screen 1080p
6700HQ
2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 Hyper X
GTX 1070
256 GB Samsung M.2 SSD
1 TB SSHD
Built in Card Reader
SoundBlaster XiFi
Intel WiFi
Intel Gigabit LAN
5 x USB 3.1
Backlit RGB KB
Win 10
3 year warranty


£1,411.67 ex VAT (1,682.91EUR)
£1,694.00 inc VAT (2,019.82EUR)

And yes, doing CAD on less than 17" is a PITA.

 

[CosmicWolf293]

You have a problem here:

I opened my engineering consulting firm in 1990. I build our desktops and all lappies are purchased from a Clevo Distributor

1. AutoCAD runs best on nVidia GTX GFX cards as does Maya. Solidworks, needs a Quadro or the slower Fire Pro series cards. The dilemma ... if ya buy the GTX, you can't do SW, if you buy the Quadro, you are gimped in Maya, AutoCAD and everything else making your lappie much less suitable for gaming and other entertainment purposes. One solution, use the Quadrp on desktop and GTX in lappie.

2. Without looking at the relative specs, all things being equal, I'd take the MSI ... they are essentially the only laptop vendor of significance that actually "makes" a laptop. Everybody else buys them from an ODM and slaps their logo on it.

3. OTOH, Clevo custom builds every laptop to YOUR specific needs... and fpr a cost that is usually less then what you'd get from the mass market brands


I am not familiar w/ the European distributors but here's one in UK. Clevo distributors are prohibited from advertising prices lower than set limit, but you can negotiate with them by calling or e-mail

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-17/

17" IPS Screen 1080p
6700HQ
2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 Hyper X
GTX 1070
256 GB Samsung M.2 SSD
1 TB SSHD
Built in Card Reader
SoundBlaster XiFi
Intel WiFi
Intel Gigabit LAN
5 x USB 3.1
Backlit RGB KB
Win 10
3 year warranty


£1,411.67 ex VAT (1,682.91EUR)
£1,694.00 inc VAT (2,019.82EUR)

And yes, doing CAD on less than 17" is a PITA.

what about defiance iii with 3k screen and stuff..

 

[CosmicWolf293]

You have a problem here:

I opened my engineering consulting firm in 1990. I build our desktops and all lappies are purchased from a Clevo Distributor

1. AutoCAD runs best on nVidia GTX GFX cards as does Maya. Solidworks, needs a Quadro or the slower Fire Pro series cards. The dilemma ... if ya buy the GTX, you can't do SW, if you buy the Quadro, you are gimped in Maya, AutoCAD and everything else making your lappie much less suitable for gaming and other entertainment purposes. One solution, use the Quadrp on desktop and GTX in lappie.

2. Without looking at the relative specs, all things being equal, I'd take the MSI ... they are essentially the only laptop vendor of significance that actually "makes" a laptop. Everybody else buys them from an ODM and slaps their logo on it.

3. OTOH, Clevo custom builds every laptop to YOUR specific needs... and fpr a cost that is usually less then what you'd get from the mass market brands


I am not familiar w/ the European distributors but here's one in UK. Clevo distributors are prohibited from advertising prices lower than set limit, but you can negotiate with them by calling or e-mail

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-17/

17" IPS Screen 1080p
6700HQ
2 x 8GB DDR4-2400 Hyper X
GTX 1070
256 GB Samsung M.2 SSD
1 TB SSHD
Built in Card Reader
SoundBlaster XiFi
Intel WiFi
Intel Gigabit LAN
5 x USB 3.1
Backlit RGB KB
Win 10
3 year warranty


£1,411.67 ex VAT (1,682.91EUR)
£1,694.00 inc VAT (2,019.82EUR)

And yes, doing CAD on less than 17" is a PITA.

what about defiance iii?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The Defiance III is the Clevo rebrand above; PC Specialist is a Clevo reseller.

Configured the exact same way as above, it will cost £13 more at £1,709.00 inc VAT

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptop-computers/clevo-laptops/40/
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/defianceIII-17/

Same thing