Alienware Alpha 4k @60hz

[EM98xXkillerXx]

So i have been looking around for a 4k @ 60hz capable machine. I am aware the alienware alpha will most definitely not be able to run 4k games of most caliber. However I was wondering if it has support for 4k @ 60hz, if it does can anyone tel me what model (i3, i5, i7?) and also your sources. I have plans, don't say it isn't possible, to steam in-home stream 4k @ 60hz. I don't care if it doesn't work now because I am not looking to buy for now but sometime in the next 6 months. Any help would be great and much appreciated. If you can recommend another machine then that would be fantastic as well.

feel free to discuss etc., or comment what you think as well.

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

Never mind the alienware alpha, i checked the website and had to search high and low before I found it has only a 1.4a HDMI out. However, does anyone know of a machine that has HDMI 2.0? How about a steam machine?

 

[Frag Maniac]

Never mind the alienware alpha, i checked the website and had to search high and low before I found it has only a 1.4a HDMI out. However, does anyone know of a machine that has HDMI 2.0? How about a steam machine?

The Alienware Alpha actually IS a Steam Machine, and a terribly overpriced and inflexible one. It has a laptop MB with a fixed 860m GPU on all 3 models, only offering a more powerful CPU on the higher model.

Personally I wouldn't bother with ANY pre-built Steam Machine. Even CyberPower, whom had the best $500 prototype shown last year with FX-6300 and R9 270, has since respeced it to a Core i3 4160 and 750, so now it's weaker vs more powerful than a PS4.

Better off building your own, as SteamOS is free anyway, and you'll have more flexibility on parts and controller. What's your budget?

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

Never mind the alienware alpha, i checked the website and had to search high and low before I found it has only a 1.4a HDMI out. However, does anyone know of a machine that has HDMI 2.0? How about a steam machine?

The Alienware Alpha actually IS a Steam Machine, and a terribly overpriced and inflexible one. It has a laptop MB with a fixed 860m GPU on all 3 models, only offering a more powerful CPU on the higher model.

Personally I wouldn't bother with ANY pre-built Steam Machine. Even CyberPower, whom had the best $500 prototype shown last year with FX-6300 and R9 270, has since respeced it to a Core i3 4160 and 750, so now it's weaker vs more powerful than a PS4.

Better off building your own, as SteamOS is free anyway, and you'll have more flexibility on parts and controller. What's your budget?

I don't really have a budget, however I just want to know the bare minimum video card and cpu requirements to build a 4k streaming machine. I was looking at the alpha because of its ultra small form factor and i cant find a case as compact or good as that. So long as it gets the job done and isnt more expensive than my 2000 dollar desktop and can be relatively small, i'm ok with most prices

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

Here is my system specs if you wanted to know:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cXXnBm

 

[Frag Maniac]

Define what you mean to be stream machine, because streaming is not really the same as downloading games through Steam and playing them as per a Steam Machine.

There are different types of streaming too. Streaming music or movies from the internet, streaming your gameplay via services like Twitch, or just simply streaming games or other media from an already existing gaming PC to your living room TV via something like Steam Link.

If you already have a $2000 PC and just want to extend your gaming to the living room, you could suffice with Steam Link and your living room TV. Steam Link is also very small. It's like the ROKU of game streaming boxes.

Steam Links are only $50 btw. As for 4k support, I think they only support 1080p 60Hz currently, but if they catch on, I wouldn't be surprised to see 4k models. For now you could use AMD's DSR and downs ample a 4k res onto a 1080p display.

You may also want to hold off on a 4k display if you don't have one yet. The prices and selection will only get better.

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

Define what you mean to be stream machine, because streaming is not really the same as downloading games through Steam and playing them as per a Steam Machine.

There are different types of streaming too. Streaming music or movies from the internet, streaming your gameplay via services like Twitch, or just simply streaming games or other media from an already existing gaming PC to your living room TV via something like Steam Link.

If you already have a $2000 PC and just want to extend your gaming to the living room, you could suffice with Steam Link and your living room TV.

Well my definition would be something that can stream a game (with support for 4k @ 60hz of course (hdmi 2.0)) as i have no need for download and also I plan on getting a small ssd to increase startup speeds, so maybe if you can modify it as well. Also fairly small and having a usb port soi can plug a controller into it.

I think i'll take your advice and hold off on 4k. I might be able to set up my main pc for now on 4k but if not ill look into getting a 120hz 1080p monitor. Thanks for the help BTW!

 

[Frag Maniac]

I know of no devices yet that stream 4k gaming, esp at 60Hz.

Nvidia's portable Shield gaming system streams 4k movies, which is something in itself, but as far as games, it only supports Android.

I would wait until there's at least a few devices that can support 4k game streaming, because the first won't necessarily be the best.

 

[ninjustin]

I have an Alpha and I can say for fact it can run 4k @60hz

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/4k/supported-gpus

Nvidia has a workaround to get more bandwidth by lowering the color quality. It's unnoticable in my opinion.

As far as streaming to it I don't know what service can handle that. But you can play some games, mostly 2d games, at those resolution on the Alpha.

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

I have an Alpha and I can say for fact it can run 4k @60hz

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/4k/supported-gpus

Nvidia has a workaround to get more bandwidth by lowering the color quality. It's unnoticable in my opinion.

As far as streaming to it I don't know what service can handle that. But you can play some games, mostly 2d games, at those resolution on the Alpha.

hmmm... maybe i'll have to look into the alienware again, also steam can support 4k streaming, you just need blazing fast internet and the correct peripherals. Linus from LinusTechTips on youtube showed an almost successful 4k stream so that's what got me thinking.

 

[Frag Maniac]

Linus from LinusTechTips on youtube showed an almost successful 4k stream so that's what got me thinking.

I'd like to see Linus do a follow up of that video because he was saying during the 4K stream attempt it looked as if something was wrong with their gigabit ISP connection. It was showing only 100Mb/s confirmed speed on the client end and dipping to 32Mb/s.

For me it's just to satisfy curiosity for shits and giggles though, because I find the pixelation talked about in that vid due to the stream compression to be too off putting to be worth it, esp on nice gear like a 4k display. And then there's the added input lag too.

I think most with a rig powerful enough to run 4k would have the rig located where the 4K display is.

 

[EM98xXkillerXx]

Linus from LinusTechTips on youtube showed an almost successful 4k stream so that's what got me thinking.

I'd like to see Linus do a follow up of that video because he was saying during the 4K stream attempt it looked as if something was wrong with their gigabit ISP connection. It was showing only 100Mb/s confirmed speed on the client end and dipping to 32Mb/s.

For me it's just to satisfy curiosity for shits and giggles though, because I find the pixelation talked about in that vid due to the stream compression to be too off putting to be worth it, esp on nice gear like a 4k display. And then there's the added input lag too.

I think most with a rig powerful enough to run 4k would have the rig located where the 4K display is.

Well I would sit by my rig as well, however you can't beat the comfort of a couch with a 65 in. flatscreen 4k tv, so thats what I was thinking.
Oh, and i'm also too lazy to drag my rig over because it's also a PC and i need it specifically for that