Question Aloha! I have 4 prebuilts I'd like your opinions on

[orwellian101]

I'm suffering from information overload. They all seem really good in their own way, I'm a bit of a min/maxer and want best value per dollar. I.e I'll buy something that 250 dollars more than a 2k budget if it means I get 20-30% more power as an example. I don't mind going 2500-2800+ if some people have some recommendations for other systems that might be significantly more powerful. Thank you for your time in helping me decide!

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-ae...Inc.&acampID=0&mpid=376373&affgroup="Content"

https://nzxt.com/product/player-thr..._medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=221109&irgwc=1

https://www.ibuypower.com/store/rdy-y60-005?irgwc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CSKFV7R...are-us-9458297449090907980-20&geniuslink=true

 

[COLGeek]

Of those choices, all but the Corsair seem to have some dubious parts. In particular, the PSU. The iBuyPower is not recommended at all. There are many threads by members with issues with these systems.

The Corsair seems over-priced, but I would have the most confidence in it.

Is building out of the question for you?

 

[orwellian101]

@COLGeek thanks for your feedback. I am certainly open to learning and building a PC, but I hear compatibility is a big issue. Many of the YouTube videos don't seem to go over many of the micro decisions i.e parts and compatibility. I'm worried I'll order a wrong part, fry something , or have to return it and buy another. Or I buy 2-5 parts per component figure out which ones work the best then send back the others that don't. I maybe overanalyzing it too.

If it had 2 TB SSD do you think it would be fair value?

What are your thoughts on the NZXT? or the bestbuy one?

 

[Eximo]

Yeah, MSI isn't really listing everything, but likely one of their lower end MAG units as the PSU since some of the comments mentioned it is non-modular, and DDR5 5600 isn't the worst, but not the best. Some random cheap MSI motherboard is likely.

I don't trust the NZXT build, 5200 is quite slow, no mention of a motherboard either. (I would really like to see what their 5TB NVMe drive option is like, never seen that size. Unless it is a typo meant to be 4TB.) With the older CPU, etc, just seems like a collection of what they have leftover. NZXT uses Biostar to make motherboards if I recall, they don't have the best reputation outside of looking nice, assuming they used one of their boards. If they did you would think they would advertise that.

Corsair makes memory, power supplies, SSDs, that chassis, the CPU cooler. Can't really go wrong with a 4070Ti Super from pretty much any brand and they do mention the motherboard is Z790.

The iBuyPower is quite specific on the parts list, however, the 4070 Super is quite a bit slower then the 4070 Ti Super in the other systems. It is cheaper though.

 

[Eximo]

I am certainly open to learning and building a PC, but I hear compatibility is a big issue. Many of the YouTube videos don't seem to go over many of the micro decisions i.e parts and compatibility.

That is one of the things that this forum is good for. You can come up with a parts list on your own and have it reviewed or set a budget and have someone come up with the best build they can make for the money.

 

[COLGeek]

That is one of the things that this forum is good for. You can come up with a parts list on your own and have it reviewed or set a budget and have someone come up with the best build they can make for the money.

Spot on. For the OP. See here:

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

Start a thread in the Systems section, providing the details from this link. Then compare to the pre-builts.

 

[Eximo]

For instance, a clone of that Corsair build, slightly cheaper using only high end parts. ASUS chosen for compatibility with iCUE RGB software.

Also could easily do a version with the newer Ultra 7 265K, but it is technically a bit slower for games despite being newer.

Or and AMD version with the 7800X3D.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE LINK H100i RGB 63.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-H GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 CORE XT 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair iCUE 4000D RGB AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.91 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2024) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1983.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-02 16:35 EST-0500

 

[orwellian101]

For instance, a clone of that Corsair build, slightly cheaper using only high end parts. ASUS chosen for compatibility with iCUE RGB software.

Also could easily do a version with the newer Ultra 7 265K, but it is technically a bit slower for games despite being newer.

Or and AMD version with the 7800X3D.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-14700K 3.4 GHz 20-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE LINK H100i RGB 63.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z790-H GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 CORE XT 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus PRIME OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair iCUE 4000D RGB AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.91 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2024) 850 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1983.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-12-02 16:35 EST-0500

Oh interesting. Wow! Maybe I should just buy this and put it together? if you had 2500, what would you upgrade for this?https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GP-...s-2925330307446156807-20&geniuslink=true&th=1
I saw this on a tomshardware list of parts for sale. Do you think this would be better than the 850W?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I like this one better. I’ve got the 850 wear version and I think that line is supposed to be one of the better ones you can get.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM10...&ufe=INHOUSE_INSTALLMENTS:US_IHI_3M_HARDLINES


The big thing on prebuilt PCs is many times they cut corners on things like the power supply in order to make more profit.

Not a huge fan of nzxt right now. Seeing some uproar from some of the tech guys on YouTube because from what I gather, the claim is the company is starting to do basically a rent a pc program that some of them are unhappy with.

 

[IzTempest]

My honest thoughts, and please forgive me for being blunt in advance.

First of all, biggest factor in my opinion is that you should get an AMD Ryzen CPU. The newer gens of Intel are performing really badly at the moment, with instabilities and crashes in the 13-14 series.

I would go with the NZXT build myself. Specifically because you can customize the parts. I would actually buy the Player 2, but add 32gb of ram, because the Ryzen cpu option for player 3 is extremely expensive. It seems to me at least that their prebuilds would be higher quality as they're specifically a well-known PC brand. But then again, I'm not sure about your application/how much power you need, and the player 2 is less powerful than the 3.

I wouldn't trust the "IBuyPower' build, as first of all the brand seems questionable. I've personally never heard of them, and they seem (forgive me) off-brand asian looking. Also the case looks horrible.

The Best Buy MSI build doesn't honestly look that bad, and it's a decent price as well. I'd go with this one if you're adamant about getting an intel CPU.

The Corsair one isn't even available for me right now, but also looks pretty good besides the Intel processor. Downsides are that it has only a 1tb SSD, compared to the 2 tb on the MSI.

Personally I wouldn't buy a prebuild, if you have a trusted friend who is good at computers or something you could ask him to build you a pc. I understand that you're unsure though, and I hope whatever build you decide on satisfies you.