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Laughable. Such a "deal" at $2400! Seriously, anyone considering this overpriced POS should just wait until AMD launches RDNA 5. You will get a more powerful card THAT WONT CATCH FIRE and it will be HALF the price of this turd.
 
John Nemesh said:
Laughable. Such a "deal" at $2400! Seriously, anyone considering this overpriced POS should just wait until AMD launches RDNA 5. You will get a more powerful card THAT WONT CATCH FIRE and it will be HALF the price of this turd.
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RDNA 5, more powerful than the 5090 and half the price? I doubt all of that. It appears AMD has decided to stick in the mid-range GPU market. Selling a RDNA 5 card at $1200 still won't entice next gen buyers. AMD has done nothing to dethrone Nvidia and Steve Burke from GN says the same. Also, Nvidia won't stand still and with even a modest increase of the 6090 it will still be the gaming champ.

I tend to agree with the article below that AMD's next generation cards will probably target RTX 5080 performance, which still isn't bad with better RT and hopefully more VRAM. The 9070 series targeted the 5070 series so it would seem plausible that their next gen cards will target the 6070 series if the numbers scheme stays the same. The 6070 series will probably be a step above the current 5080.

Nvidia is in cruise control right now so their 6 series cards will probably be a modest increase over the 5 series, just like the 5xxx were a modest increase over the 4xxx.

https://www.techspot.com/news/108754-amd-upcoming-rdna-5-flagship-could-target-rtx.html
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
RDNA 5, more powerful than the 5090 and half the price? I doubt all of that. It appears AMD has decided to stick in the mid-range GPU market. Selling a RDNA 5 card at $1200 still won't entice next gen buyers. AMD has done nothing to dethrone Nvidia and Steve Burke from GN says the same. Also, Nvidia won't stand still and with even a modest increase of the 6090 it will still be the gaming champ.

I tend to agree with the article below that AMD's next generation cards will probably target RTX 5080 performance, which still isn't bad with better RT and hopefully more VRAM. The 9070 series targeted the 5070 series so it would seem plausible that their next gen cards will target the 6070 series if the numbers scheme stays the same. The 6070 series will probably be a step above the current 5080.

Nvidia is in cruise control right now so their 6 series cards will probably be a modest increase over the 5 series, just like the 5xxx were a modest increase over the 4xxx.

https://www.techspot.com/news/108754-amd-upcoming-rdna-5-flagship-could-target-rtx.html
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You are forgetting that the next gen 6XXX series Nvidia cards will be on a new manufacturing node, unlike the difference between the 4XXX and 5XXX series cards (which were both TSMC 4NM). There is never as much performance bump in the cards when there is no node change, but when there is a node change, we tend to see much higher performance jumps.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
RDNA 5, more powerful than the 5090 and half the price? I doubt all of that. It appears AMD has decided to stick in the mid-range GPU market. Selling a RDNA 5 card at $1200 still won't entice next gen buyers. AMD has done nothing to dethrone Nvidia and Steve Burke from GN says the same. Also, Nvidia won't stand still and with even a modest increase of the 6090 it will still be the gaming champ.
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I find it laughable to suggest "nVidia won't stand still." The 5090 was the only card with a meaningful performance boost over the 4000 series (don't let the frame generation numbers fool you). We'll be lucky if that happens with the 6000 series at all, even accounting for the node change.

nVidia has made clear from its quarterly earnings that consumer is now a far distant second to (AI) enterprise in terms of revenue sources and thus importance. It will neglect the RTX line for the foreseeable future, especially because it has no incentive to do anything substantive. GPU development now seems to be trickling down and repackaging AI chip development, based on what the 5000 series did, and that seems to be the cheaper method of development. And competition is weak: It's been a long time since AMD made a GPU that could challenge nVidia at the flagship level, and even if they're serious about challenging them, they're a couple years out from putting out something that could. The only other significant competitor in the space is Intel, and even accounting for their current turmoil, a flagship-level card is several years out if we're lucky.

nVidia can and, given their propensity towards AI chip development for the enterprise market, will sit pretty for a while.
 
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John Nemesh said:
Laughable. Such a "deal" at $2400! Seriously, anyone considering this overpriced POS should just wait until AMD launches RDNA 5. You will get a more powerful card THAT WONT CATCH FIRE and it will be HALF the price of this turd.
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Well, as a guy who recently saw his 5090 connector burning, i'm gonna have to agree with the "card THAT WONT CATCH FIRE" part, but i seriously doubt the rest of what you wrote.

We haven't even seen an AMD GPU that can surpass 4090, which is basically a 3 year old card at this point.
 
onigami said:
I find it laughable to suggest "nVidia won't stand still." The 5090 was the only card with a meaningful performance boost over the 4000 series
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They had no incentive because there's really no competition for Nvidia. AMD made it known they were no longer in the flagship market. The 7900XTX and XT GPU's did not entice enough buyers vs Nvidia.

When you as a company (Nvidia) are asking $2K for a graphics card, you better give the buyer a good reason to fork over their cash. Everything else 5080 on down was an incremental upgrade over the 4xxx series.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
RDNA 5, more powerful than the 5090 and half the price? I doubt all of that. It appears AMD has decided to stick in the mid-range GPU market. Selling a RDNA 5 card at $1200 still won't entice next gen buyers. AMD has done nothing to dethrone Nvidia and Steve Burke from GN says the same. Also, Nvidia won't stand still and with even a modest increase of the 6090 it will still be the gaming champ.

I tend to agree with the article below that AMD's next generation cards will probably target RTX 5080 performance, which still isn't bad with better RT and hopefully more VRAM. The 9070 series targeted the 5070 series so it would seem plausible that their next gen cards will target the 6070 series if the numbers scheme stays the same. The 6070 series will probably be a step above the current 5080.

Nvidia is in cruise control right now so their 6 series cards will probably be a modest increase over the 5 series, just like the 5xxx were a modest increase over the 4xxx.

https://www.techspot.com/news/108754-amd-upcoming-rdna-5-flagship-could-target-rtx.html
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If RDNA5 is even close to 5090/6090 it will cost $3000 to compete with 6090 that will be $3500... So you can get AMD $500 cheaper!

The company that can sell GPUs at much cheaper price than anyone else is Nvidia, because it produce so much more GPUs that their RD cost are divided among much bigger pool of GPUs! So if AMD can release something... It will be very close to the price of Nvidia equivalent and AMD profit margins are smaller because they pay more for each gpu they manufacture...
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
They had no incentive because there's really no competition for Nvidia. AMD made it known they were no longer in the flagship market. The 7900XTX and XT GPU's did not entice enough buyers vs Nvidia.

When you as a company (Nvidia) are asking $2K for a graphics card, you better give the buyer a good reason to fork over their cash. Everything else 5080 on down was an incremental upgrade over the 4xxx series.
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LOL, you act like AMD gave up for good. Every couple gens, AMD doesn't target the top end, instead focusing on the mass market skus. This has happened before. And you may want to watch "Moore's Law is Dead" on recent AMD leaks on their new flagship GPUs in development. They are targeting the Nvidia 6090 with their next card. And they will probably beat it.
 
John Nemesh said:
LOL, you act like AMD gave up for good. Every couple gens, AMD doesn't target the top end, instead focusing on the mass market skus. This has happened before. And you may want to watch "Moore's Law is Dead" on recent AMD leaks on their new flagship GPUs in development. They are targeting the Nvidia 6090 with their next card. And they will probably beat it.
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I did not say AMD has given up. What I have said is that they and other tech websites that AMD is no longer in the high-end GPU market. Where are you getting your information that they are targeting the 6090?

I'm hedging that Steve Burke from GN is correct that AMD is no longer in the high end GPU market. As Steve mentioned in one of his videos, that AMD doesn't seem to believe in their own products when they abruptly asked how they should price the 9000 series, two days before launch.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekKQyrgkd3c


So you are wanting us to believe that after the disappointing sales strategy of the 7900XTX (which compared to the 4080 and not the 4090) and the scattershot launch of the 9000 series that they are going to somehow do an about face and leapfrog the 6090? I hate to say it but I no longer buy city bridges from scrupulous sellers.

Your opinion just runs counter to what Steve Burke says the market segment AMD has settled on and it is in the mid-range market. AMD still has supply issues to this day because as Steve Burke mentioned, they didn't build enough capacity because they didn't think the 9000 series would be popular. So again, he was correct in saying that AMD doesn't believe in their own product.

Meanwhile Nvida's 5000 series cards are dropping in price and getting closer to MSRP on Amazon. In fact they were recently selling a 5070 Ti for $749, while the 9070 and 9070XT are still 30-50% above MSRP.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
I did not say AMD has given up. What I have said is that they and other tech websites that AMD is no longer in the high-end GPU market. Where are you getting your information that they are targeting the 6090?

I'm hedging that Steve Burke from GN is correct that AMD is no longer in the high end GPU market. As Steve mentioned in one of his videos, that AMD doesn't seem to believe in their own products when they abruptly asked how they should price the 9000 series, two days before launch.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekKQyrgkd3c


So you are wanting us to believe that after the disappointing sales strategy of the 7900XTX (which compared to the 4080 and not the 4090) and the scattershot launch of the 9000 series that they are going to somehow do an about face and leapfrog the 6090? I hate to say it but I no longer buy city bridges from scrupulous sellers.

Your opinion just runs counter to what Steve Burke says the market segment AMD has settled on and it is in the mid-range market. AMD still has supply issues to this day because as Steve Burke mentioned, they didn't build enough capacity because they didn't think the 9000 series would be popular. So again, he was correct in saying that AMD doesn't believe in their own product.

Meanwhile Nvida's 5000 series cards are dropping in price and getting closer to MSRP on Amazon. In fact they were recently selling a 5070 Ti for $749, while the 9070 and 9070XT are still 30-50% above MSRP.
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I told you where my info came from. And your OPINION on the matter is completely irrelevant. BTW, I don't know where you are shopping, but AMD cards are NOT 30-50% over MSRP. Try looking for base models and not the BS "OC" models when you are shopping.
 
Still in stock more than a day later, this indicates that we are not near the bottom. Maybe we can get really fortunate and start seeing sub MSRP prices for GPUs in the future after all.
 
hannibal said:
If RDNA5 is even close to 5090/6090 it will cost $3000 to compete with 6090 that will be $3500... So you can get AMD $500 cheaper!

The company that can sell GPUs at much cheaper price than anyone else is Nvidia, because it produce so much more GPUs that their RD cost are divided among much bigger pool of GPUs! So if AMD can release something... It will be very close to the price of Nvidia equivalent and AMD profit margins are smaller because they pay more for each gpu they manufacture...
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Currently nVidia is not putting much R&D into GPUs, only AI. So, it is easily possible that AMD could over take them. The 5000 series was nothing more than a slight process improvement along with some AI additions that did not significantly improve performance. They are likely to do a repeat because AI is where their war chest is rightly aimed.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
RDNA 5, more powerful than the 5090 and half the price? I doubt all of that. It appears AMD has decided to stick in the mid-range GPU market. Selling a RDNA 5 card at $1200 still won't entice next gen buyers. AMD has done nothing to dethrone Nvidia and Steve Burke from GN says the same. Also, Nvidia won't stand still and with even a modest increase of the 6090 it will still be the gaming champ.

I tend to agree with the article below that AMD's next generation cards will probably target RTX 5080 performance, which still isn't bad with better RT and hopefully more VRAM. The 9070 series targeted the 5070 series so it would seem plausible that their next gen cards will target the 6070 series if the numbers scheme stays the same. The 6070 series will probably be a step above the current 5080.

Nvidia is in cruise control right now so their 6 series cards will probably be a modest increase over the 5 series, just like the 5xxx were a modest increase over the 4xxx.

https://www.techspot.com/news/108754-amd-upcoming-rdna-5-flagship-could-target-rtx.html
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But remember we’re getting a brand new node with Vera generation GPU’s. Blackwell was basically a placeholder and a cash grab. Nvidia should have just went straight to 3nm. Lovelace was basically the top run of the ladder. Blackwell is an attempt to stand on that top rung while hugging the house or tree. Especially the 5090. It’s too inefficient, it uses too much power and it’s built without sufficient safety measures. Safe power management should be a no brainer for any professional company, let alone Nvidia.
 
Only writing to say I have now blocked Toms Hardware from my Google news because this is not "News", this is an ad disguised as useful information. Not again. Blocked.
 
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