News AMD 170W Granite Ridge Zen 5 CPUs and 128W Strix Point APUs revealed in shipping manifest — 16-core 'Fire Range' mobile CPUs also coming

[Admin]

An AMD shipping manifest has spilled the beans on a collection of new AMD engineering samples sporting its future Zen 5 CPU architecture. Granite Ridge, Strix Point Halo, and Fire Range with up to 16 cores are listed

AMD 170W Granite Ridge Zen 5 CPUs and 128W Strix Point APUs revealed in shipping manifest — 16-core 'Fire Range' mobile CPUs also coming : Read more

 

[Notton]

Are we sure it's 128W, and not Strix1 28W?
Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo?

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo?

Most likely YES. These could also be the Strix 1 chips sporting the classic or monolithic package, unlike Strix 2 chiplet-based premium SKUs. I'm also more inclined towards Strix 1, than the Halo parts.

 

[usertests]

One noteworthy takeaway from the leak is that Zen 5 will be the first AMD architecture to put 16 cores in a single CCD, making a potential 32-core mainstream AM5 flagship possible.

I'd like an annotated guide to show where these conclusions are coming from.

There is probably a 16-core Zen 5c CCD, and the usual 8-core Zen 5 CCD. AMD can impress on multi-threading by putting these two together for a 24-core.

 

[TerryLaze]

Are we sure it's 128W, and not Strix1 28W?
Maybe it's Strix1 = Strix Point, Strix2 = Strix Halo?

128W would be a good thing, it would mean that it would have really good iGPU performance.
Fire range would be 16 cores at 55W, so why not have a decently powered iGPU one.

 

[Notton]

128W would be a good thing, it would mean that it would have really good iGPU performance.
Fire range would be 16 cores at 55W, so why not have a decently powered iGPU one.

Yeah, it would be, but Strix Point only has 16CU. For reference, RX 7600 has 32CU, and Hawk Point 8040 has 12CU

Strix Halo with 40CU isn't supposed to come out until 2025.

 

[hotaru251]

will be the first AMD architecture to put 16 cores in a single CCD, making a potential 32-core mainstream AM5 flagship possible.

imho I assume this is more to get rid of the issue AMD's had with multi CCD's where it causes performance issues.

Would likely make it so the lower 1ccd x3d cpu's no longer lose in gaming compared to their higher sku version w/ 2ccd.

AMD has no real reason to ever increase core count given they have TR for if you need more cores. (and no mainstream consumer really gains much benefit from any more except very niche uses)

 

[Amdlova]

Lol... new boards will be like 400us for support this new tdp..
It's beyond of insanity... I'am trying find the sweet spot on 35w tdp.

 

[NeoMorpheus]

Strange that the first thing mentioned is the TDP, but i dont see the same thing on all the other articles at the CPU section for the Intel ones.

 

[tbq]

Strange that the first thing mentioned is the TDP, but i dont see the same thing on all the other articles at the CPU section for the Intel ones.

That so much supposed processing power is available at ONLY 170 watts is what makes it newsworthy compared to Intel's current offerings. The fact that Intel's high end CPUs use so much power is no longer news to anyone that's familiar with current trends in consumer level computers.

 

[rluker5]

That so much supposed processing power is available at ONLY 170 watts is what makes it newsworthy compared to Intel's current offerings. The fact that Intel's high end CPUs use so much power is no longer news to anyone that's familiar with current trends in consumer level computers.

Can 170w for 8c be ambiently cooled on AM5? I thought that Zen4 was designed to thermal throttle at less watts using the same chonky IHS.

Also if you turn down Raptor's clocks to match vanilla Zen 4's performance, like 5 ghz or so, the power consumption gets a lot closer and would probably be equivalent if they were on the same node.

Intel just runs clocks to the moon and everyone knows that takes a lot more power. A lot of people prefer it that way. Anybody can downclock their chip to save power, even in Windows with no bios changes, but how many do? (I often do and have shared an easy way how several times but nobody cares.) How many Zen owners would run their CPU at +500mhz if they could cool it and it used 300w?

It isn't just black and white Intel is inefficient and AMD+TSMC is efficient.

 

[Amdlova]

Got an 13600T on ebay. 4.2ghz all cores with 35w 175us

Now people dare to say 170w is cool with 8 cores? do you really want spend 400us motherboard more 400us Cpu and another 130us 360mm AIO to see your cpu melting and downclocking...

I will keep my 35w cpu gaming with cool ambient cpu temps and a total system power of 250W

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

imho I assume this is more to get rid of the issue AMD's had with multi CCD's where it causes performance issues.

Would likely make it so the lower 1ccd x3d cpu's no longer lose in gaming compared to their higher sku version w/ 2ccd.

AMD has no real reason to ever increase core count given they have TR for if you need more cores. (and no mainstream consumer really gains much benefit from any more except very niche uses)

It’s the other way around. The 7800x3d outperforms the 7900x3d and 7950x3d in gaming.

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

Got an 13600T on ebay. 4.2ghz all cores with 35w 175us

Now people dare to say 170w is cool with 8 cores? do you really want spend 400us motherboard more 400us Cpu and another 130us 360mm AIO to see your cpu melting and downclocking...

I will keep my 35w cpu gaming with cool ambient cpu temps and a total system power of 250W

I like it…responsible…and affordable. If it works for you then more “power savings” to you lol

 

[TerryLaze]

Intel just runs clocks to the moon and everyone knows that takes a lot more power.

They don't though.
They do send out review guides that call the 253W setting performance, and the 320W for the KS extreme, if that sounds like default to anybody then I don't know what to say.
Default for the k is 125W and even the ks is still 150W ,but nobody respects that and intel can't force an unlocked CPU to be reviewed as an locked one, something like that would need government interference.

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

They don't though.
They do send out review guides that call the 253W setting performance, and the 320W for the KS extreme, if that sounds like default to anybody then I don't know what to say.
Default for the k is 125W and even the ks is still 150W ,but nobody respects that and intel can't force an unlocked CPU to be reviewed as an locked one, something like that would need government interference.

Non-sense, Intel just has to make reviewers sign an NDA/contract that states to release a review on day 1 of review week, stock 150w TDP must be adhered to. Reviews using the performance and extreme options may only be released on day 4 of review week, and OC reviews on day 7. if reviewers don’t test at stock TDP, then they stop getting free samples to review. That’s all Intel has to do. No government intervention needed.

 

[hotaru251]

The 7800x3d outperforms the 7900x3d and 7950x3d in gaming.

...thats what i meant (should of been win not lose >_<)

as from what I know only reason they are betetr is due to the 1ccd not having the latency hit if it crosses to a core on a separate ccd.
Having 1 ccd on their high end should mean their higher sku actually beats lower sku in most everything unlike now where lower sku can beat higher sku.