AMD 1800X now or AMD Threadripper?

MustardTart24

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I am re-entering the market for a new build. I do not like Intel...this is my taste and decision so I ask that nobody try to persuade me to team blue. I am keeping Intel out of the question. I have watched the Ryzen 7 1800X over the past couple months progress from a more workstation friendly chip to a gaming CPU as well with various updates. I am a gamer, video and photo editor, entry-level YouTube uploader, and streamer [Amazon Prime/YouTube] to large screens. With ym wide range of interests; should I wait until the 16C/32T Threadripper comes to market or should I go with the 1800X since pricing has already lowered and will remain cheaper?

Granted, I don't know if AMD Threadripper is even going to perform super well with gaming. I think the consumer market can at least expect decent performance but I have a feeling it won't perform as well as other options available because of it's design and intended consumer field. But again, this is only one part of my intentions so ANY and ALL opinions are welcome?

EXTRA: I'm going from an FX-8350 so either choice will be a significant upgrade.
 
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If you can wait for 3 months go for threadripper.
1. I have no love lost for team blue but read the review for core i9 -7900X. The motherboard manufacturers are making the boards for a 200 W chip the same way they made for a <100W chip. So, you should wait till they replace the plastic cap with a genuine heatsink.
2. You are already comfortable with water cooling.
3. Your workload is capable of utilising multiple cores (is parallel).
4. Your workload required fast I/O like a thunderbolt DAS or a 10 GbE NAS. A single thunderbolt port represents ×4 PCIE lanes, which is exactly the bandwidth of the connection between Ryzen & x370 chipset. If you put in a dual thunderbolt AIC then what will you give your SSDs & LAN ?
5. If you...
I would only go with the 1800x if you are not comfortable with overclocking. The 1700 is much cheaper and can be overclocked to 1800x speeds and beyond for some chips. They both perform the same at the same clock speed.

Do you need 16 cores? Do you do anything that would make use of them? If not then no I don't think you need to wait for threadripper.
 


I plan on live streaming as well in the future. I am growing more comfortable with overclocking but cannot experiment as much at the moment because my current motherboard is not capable. I currently am running a custom EKWB loop so I plan to cool it properly.
 
16C/32T Threadripper will only really be needed by hardcore video / photo editors or people with jobs in CAD or something similar...I cant see a gamer or casual editor needing any more that Ryzen 1700 /1800 for the next couple of years.

I plan on doing a Ryzen 1700 / 1800 build myself in the next year...I will be moving from an i7 system that I use the same way you use yours.
 


Do you think perhaps I should downgrade to the 10 or 12C instead of the 16C? Get those extra two or four more? I know cores are very useful with simulators which tend to be CPU dependent.
 
If you can wait for 3 months go for threadripper.
1. I have no love lost for team blue but read the review for core i9 -7900X. The motherboard manufacturers are making the boards for a 200 W chip the same way they made for a <100W chip. So, you should wait till they replace the plastic cap with a genuine heatsink.
2. You are already comfortable with water cooling.
3. Your workload is capable of utilising multiple cores (is parallel).
4. Your workload required fast I/O like a thunderbolt DAS or a 10 GbE NAS. A single thunderbolt port represents ×4 PCIE lanes, which is exactly the bandwidth of the connection between Ryzen & x370 chipset. If you put in a dual thunderbolt AIC then what will you give your SSDs & LAN ?
5. If you put in quality NVMe SSDS in raid then even 2 samsung evo 1 TB will easily saturate the chipset link in sequential workloads then what about the remaining I/O?
6.AMD has just introduced the first Vega; nvidia had introduced the 1st Voltage (as a compute card). I think you will get a better deal after 3 months.
7. For optimum performance of a crossfire / SLI with high end screens & GPUs and multiple screens a ×16 PCIE link is better.
8. For nonlinear video editing, and photos >20 MP a large amount of memory will significantly speed up your work. Clue threadripper.
9. Streaming+ gaming+video editing a 16 core cpu will be better & cheaper& more reliable than 1 system gaming+ 1 system streaming+ a server for editing.
10. minor point by purchasing threadripper you promote AMD by buying 2 CPUs.


IMHO you will be better off waiting 2-3 months for threadripper
 
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