Amd 6500 or the 8350

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I am replacing an AMD FX-4350 with a budget around $120 and found out that I could buy an eight core for that much and was wondering which is better for playing modded Minecraft while running a server. Is the AMD FX-6300 better than the AMD FX-8350 only because it is $40 cheaper or is there a reason to buy the 6300?
 
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The 8350 is a lot better than the 6300. On many next gen PC games the 6300 doesn't meet minimum PC requirements. It will run, but not great. The 8350 will meet the requirements and in most cases even meet recommended settings. I can tell you from personal experience because I had a 6300 and I went with a 8350 because I found a used one for 25.00 and now I can play Fallout 4, Mass Effect Andromeda and Witcher 3 at 1080 on ultra settings. With the 6300 it was on low settings.

Yes, a Ryzen would be better, but you would also need a new motherboard, new RAM, etc. So if you are on a budget and wanting something for now, the 8350 is the better option until you can afford to do a larger upgrade.
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but that means a new motherboard, cpu, and RAM. probably 300-400 dollars worth to replace what I have (Asus M5A97 R2.0, 32 GB or RAM and whatever cpu is mid priced and powerful for my money)
 
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The FX range isn't powerful, for gaming the FX8350 barely keeps up with Intels cheap G4560. Your motherboard is not good for 125w CPU's so you would need to go for the even weaker 6300 (95w). It's just difficult to recommend investing money in parts which are nearly obsolete.
 
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I still point to my other comment, I don't want to spend that much money if I don't have to.
 
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If you want something significantly faster than the FX-4350, you don't have much of a choice. Games are primarily bottlenecked by single-threaded performance, which is why even the FX-9590 gets beaten by Intel's Pentium and i3 in many games. Having more cores won't help much in most current games beyond providing extra cores to handle OS overhead and background tasks.
 
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As above, the FX series are based on a 7 year old design which was only average when new. If you want a significant performance boost you need to move to a new platform as your motherboard cpu socket doesn't support modern cpu's.

If you still want to spend money on a small upgrade then get the 6300 as the 8350 is a 125w and your motherboard is known to have problems with 125w cpu's. If you do get the 6300 you may find very little performance gain as explained by InvalidError.

We are trying to help you from wasting money on something that doesn't meet your needs or expectations.
 
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At this point FX is basically dead. I think you would be better off to ride with the quad you have and overclock it to the max you can get out of it. Save a little more money and try to get a Ryzen cpu, board and ram. If you went for a Ryzen 3 1200, you could probably be at 230-250 with a b350 board, and with ddr4 ram. Then sell your old parts on ebay or craigslist to recoup some of your cost. Trust me, much better.
 
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OP currently has 32GB of RAM, that's ~$300 out of pocket at current DDR4 prices, probably about double what OP originally paid for DDR3, possibly more. Tough pill to swallow.

I know I will be stretching my i5-3470/i7-2600k and its 32GB of DDR3 at least until DRAM prices come back down.
 
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Well in that case, could roll with something like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GA-Z77X-UD3H-Motherboard-w-Intel-Core-i5-3570k-CPU-8GB-DDR3-Z77-1155-/401402716434?hash=item5d75776112:g:G~sAAOSwDQJZtyk0

Then sell off the 8gb that come with it. Would give a nice upgrade and if he picked up a good cooler could probably overclock(I don't know as much on intel side), not be too far above budget. That would give him a year or so to save up and figure out where to jump.

Although when I sold 8gb of ddr3 1600 I got about 30-35. So if he did jump to Ryzen, it stands to reason that ram should be worth about 120-140 which would be close to getting a 16gb kit.
 
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What about the AMD ryzen series
 
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Who says? The FX 8350 is an old design now, single core is not that great. When you look at the numbers against even an i3, single core the FX 8350 struggles even overclocked. Multicore performance is probably better, but they are still a hot inefficient design. They were ok for what they are, I had an FX 8120 for a whie, and later an FX 6300. But can tell you vs my Ryzen 5 1600, they aren't as good.

Gives you an idea of an upper end Ryzen vs an FX 8350.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-vs-AMD-FX-8350/3915vs1489
 
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Re-read my first post in this thread. Not hard to find, it is the second response.

Ryzen has 40-50% better IPC than Bulldozer/Excavator, which means you would need to overclock an FX chip to 5+ GHz to match a 3.6GHz stock Ryzen in lightly threaded software like most games. For heavily threaded workloads, Ryzen also gains as much as 40% extra performance from multi-threading (1400 and up) over a same core count FX chip, which makes it nearly twice as fast clock-for-clock.

Long story short, Ryzen is mopping the floor with FX, it is a no-contest.
 
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Really? And who made up this score? Just look at any modern CPU benchmarks , the 8350 only just about keeps up with the bottom end cheapie G4560 in average fps but the 8350 usually has worse minimum fps, the 6300 is a fair way behind G4560. The FX series have very weak single core performance, always have. AMD bet on more cores over stronger cores with the FX series and their strategy failed, only now are a few games and more programs starting to use more than 4 threads.
 
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It might be, but he's already got a 4350, which he can probably overclock.

If you look at a site like this one to give a comparison.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-8350-vs-AMD-FX-4350

The FX 4350 in single core is actually about a match for the FX 8350. He already has 120. For that money, he could probably buy the pentium and a board, then save up a little more to buy the ram needed, and rebuild his system, which would probably outperform the 8350, but he could later drop an i5 or an i7 into the same board potentially. So while the 8350 was ok in it's time, spending the money on it does not make sense.
 
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