AMD A10-5800K without graphics card can run Crysis 3 and Aliens: Colonial Marines?

[8350rocks]

oh so making the gpu a quad core? so rlly the cpu portion doesnt rlly gain off the extra cores and used purely for the gpu or what?

Well, for running integer calculation, the CPU can tap the cores that are unused for graphic processing...but when under heavy Graphics load, the GPU cores are prioritized for rendering...

 

[lazyboy947]

i would agree that its a clever way how they did that, so when igpu is disabled are those cores unlocked for full cpu use?

 

[8350rocks]

i would agree that its a clever way how they did that, so when igpu is disabled are those cores unlocked for full cpu use?

Yes, because they're not tied up rendering

 

[lazyboy947]

so would the disabled cores being used for reg processing, have similar performance to the fx 83xx cpus?

 

[8350rocks]

so would the disabled cores being used for reg processing, have similar performance to the fx 83xx cpus?

Similar...not exactly the same...but you'd be better off then a 6300 and not quite an 8320...you're missing some L3 cache on the chip...so you won't be able to process instructions quite as fast...but you'll be right on the heels of the FX8XXX series...

 

[lazyboy947]

wow this i did not know, going to have to test this with my friends a10 lol Totally makes it worth getting an A10 over an i3 or something lol

When my friend gets his i3, im going to take each of my 6770s and figureing out which one is better lol

sorry for taking over the thread somewhat lol at least it was about the A10 lol

 

[8350rocks]

wow this i did not know, going to have to test this with my friends a10 lol Totally makes it worth getting an A10 over an i3 or something lol

Indeed...AMD is pretty clever...

 

[twelve25]

The A10 APU has 8 cores and 4 FPUs and a clock speed of 3.8 GHz (4.1 TC)...pentium is better how?

Since when does a quad core apu have 8 cores?

A10 is an 8 core CPU with 4 FPUs...they call it a "quad core" because they count Floating Point Units capable of making Floating Point Calculations a "core" however, it has 8 cores capable of making integer calculations...it is essentially an FX8320 without L3 cache and using an integrated 7660 HD GPU instead. It's technically a System on Chip or SoC, which is why they call it an APU.

Seriously, you are making this up!

Look at the processor block diagram, it's two dual core modules each with 1 FPU scheduler and 2 integer schedules. If anything it is even a stretch to call it a quad core.

 

[lazyboy947]

Well even if his facts are not right, the igpu of the a10 is not bad for it being apart of the cpu and costing no more than it would be to buy an older card like a 9800gt which still sells for $70. I know who would still buy one of them but the a10 is a great budget processor to get, even the new hasewell hd graphics cant touch the trinity igpu, i know obviously ppl dont buy intel cpus to use the igpu at least for an i7 lol but with 1866 ram and an overclock on the cpu and gpu, makes playable fps on bf3 at med and other games, if u think of how much ur paying for a low end pc to run lets say just bf3 at similar settings the apu has great performance for what you get.

At the moment 1866+ ram is not much more than 1600 as for some odd reason i do not know but ram has gone from $38-42 to about $60 for 8gb 1600.

Basically the a10 is also comparable to the cheaper x4 965be, which for budget would get over a 4300 as if ur going 4300 get a 6300 for $10 more lol and the best budget gpu would be the $115 7770, as the 650 is usually slightly behind it and the ti 650 is better but costs more

 

[twelve25]

The A10 is a great CPU, but that doesn't mean it is going to play Crysis.

 

[lazyboy947]

seen some youtube videos with crysis 3 and the igpu, seems the lowest settings is barely 30 fps and dipping lower, so would def require a decent oc and higher speed ram, as crysis is a pretty rough game lol the beta defaulted my crossfire to medium lol

 

[popatim]

The A10 APU has 8 cores and 4 FPUs and a clock speed of 3.8 GHz (4.1 TC)...pentium is better how?

Since when does a quad core apu have 8 cores?

A10 is an 8 core CPU with 4 FPUs...they call it a "quad core" because they count Floating Point Units capable of making Floating Point Calculations a "core" however, it has 8 cores capable of making integer calculations...it is essentially an FX8320 without L3 cache and using an integrated 7660 HD GPU instead. It's technically a System on Chip or SoC, which is why they call it an APU.

Seriously, you are making this up!

Look at the processor block diagram, it's two dual core modules each with 1 FPU scheduler and 2 integer schedules. If anything it is even a stretch to call it a quad core.

And whats hillarious is he beleives every word of it and not even able to provide 1 shred of any proof. The a10 is a quad core with 2 FPU's. End of story. The gpu is not a quad core because gpu's don't use any kind of cpu cores; they use radeon cores and there's 384 of them in the 10-5800k. Here's a link for proof. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6332/amd-trinity-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-part-1
Someone needs to ban this moron from making posts for a month...spreading misinformation like this on a geeks forum is blasphemous.

As for the A10, its good for what it is but if you have any intention of getting a discrete GPU then get a different processor altogether. Basically its the athlon version of the fx, it lacks L3 cache just like the athlonII's so its performance is a little slower that the equivalent FX-4xxx processor. The FX-6xxx and Fx-8xxx blow it out of the water but only for programs/games that can use the extra cores. In single threaded apps it will be just a little slower.
IMO - its the perfect HTPC processor.

 

[lazyboy947]

seemed pretty legit lol i mean i questioned it just dont pay too much attention with the apus, should known better than to listen but gotta love ppl who are misinformed or are trolls lol

 

[mohit9206]

The A10 is a great CPU, but that doesn't mean it is going to play Crysis.

why do you say the A10 cant play crysis ? it can just at low settings though but it can. however look at positive side of things. there are many new games that A10 can even manage at 1080p medium details. so its a good budget cpu with built in gpu. however i would say that my cheap pentium + 7750 combo blows away the A10 in gaming performance

 

[logainofhades]

The A10 is a great CPU, but that doesn't mean it is going to play Crysis.

why do you say the A10 cant play crysis ? it can just at low settings though but it can. however look at positive side of things. there are many new games that A10 can even manage at 1080p medium details. so its a good budget cpu with built in gpu. however i would say that my cheap pentium + 7750 combo blows away the A10 in gaming performance

An Athlon II X4 640 with a 7750 would be better yet if you consider what the best CPU's for the money article says. Pretty cheap combo as well.

 

[twelve25]

The A10 is a great CPU, but that doesn't mean it is going to play Crysis.

why do you say the A10 cant play crysis ? it can just at low settings though but it can. however look at positive side of things. there are many new games that A10 can even manage at 1080p medium details. so its a good budget cpu with built in gpu. however i would say that my cheap pentium + 7750 combo blows away the A10 in gaming performance

I am not sure it can. See the graph I posted above showing the 6670 at 20fps on 720p and low. I don't consider 20fps playable by any standard and the APU is not going to outperform a 6670.

Yes there are many games it can play well, but it's looking like not the one the OP mentioned.

 

[ASHISH65]

if we compare pentium with athlon by clock to clock speed than pentium will be faster than athlon.

- http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G2120-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-640

 

[logainofhades]

if we compare pentium with athlon by clock to clock speed than pentium will be faster than athlon.

- http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G2120-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-640

I suggest you do some reading. Tom's took the Pentiums off the best gaming cpus list for a reason.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427.html

 

[ASHISH65]

if we compare pentium with athlon by clock to clock speed than pentium will be faster than athlon.

- http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G2120-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-640

I suggest you do some reading. Tom's took the Pentiums off the best gaming cpus list for a reason.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-2.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427.html

i have read that many times

x4 will be better in multithreaded games,but games which uses 2 cores(90% games uses)then pentium will have edge due to strong single core performance + low power consumption.

- http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/122?vs=404

- http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/188?vs=404

 

[BhargavJ]

I have a laptop at present, an i3 2350M CPU at 2.30 Ghz, with 4 GB DDR3 RAM, and Intel HD Graphics 3000. It can't run Aliens vs Predator of 2010 properly, so I'm thinking of buying a new computer. Will the A10 run both the Aliens games (AVP 2010 and Aliens Colonial Marines), forget Crysis, at playable rates, even at low settings?

 

[BhargavJ]

But this is my thread! And I had mentioned Crysis 3 in the first post, which is what everyone is talking about. But I also need info for the Aliens games. Maybe the Aliens games won't be so much graphics intensive as Crysis 3. As for budget, I haven't decided it yet, it is around 25 to 30K (Indian rupees), which is why I thought of the A10.

 

[ASHISH65]

But this is my thread! And I had mentioned Crysis 3 in the first post, which is what everyone is talking about. But I also need info for the Aliens games. Maybe the Aliens games won't be so much graphics intensive as Crysis 3. As for budget, I haven't decided it yet, it is around 25 to 30K (Indian rupees), which is why I thought of the A10.

sorry my crap!! what components you need in 30k

 

[BhargavJ]

One option is to buy an APU, at around 30K. Second option is to buy a CPU (entire system), same budget, but I'll buy a 7850 separately with my money, taking the rest from my father. Haven't decided what to do, which is why I asked whether these games will run on an APU.

 

[ASHISH65]

apu will struggle with new games.apu 10 iss at rs 8500.not rs 30000

 

[ASHISH65]

so which components you want in 30k? i tell you a quotation