AMD Athlon 64 3200+ vs. Intel Pentium 4 HT Processor 630

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Which Processor Would You Choose?

  • Intel Pentium 4 HT Processor 630

    Votes: 19 35.2%
  • AMD Athlon 64 3200+

    Votes: 35 64.8%

  • Total voters
    54
AMD have termal issues in the top of line Opterons etc.

High-end stuff tends to be MORE efficient because they have to run 24/7.

The 2xx/8xx Opterons are actually thermally cooler than the FX line.

Regardless, when Woodcrest / Conroe comes out you'll all toss your crappy P4s and pray to the Core gods for forgiveness for ever believing the Netburst architecture was even worth owning...
 
HAHAH you have 8 posts and your calling somone a fanboy.
But really 70-90c is crazy. Its like 50-70c sepends on airflow.
And the 3200 wins the 4-way multasking. The 630 wins the 2-way. Because of hypertreading.
I personaly would get the 3200.
 
Thanks a lot for the feedback, guys! I've decided to go get myself an AMD Athlon 64-Based platform (3200+). I'm from the Philippines and considering the hot and humid climate we got here, I figured investing in a nice CPU cooling system such as the Thermaltake TR2 series is a good idea. The stock heatsink I think would be capable enough to do the job but I'd like to stay on the safe side. The way I see it, it doesn't make sense spending on a PhP10,000/US$190 Processor then scrimp on a PhP2,000+/US$40+ CPU cooler and then risk ruining a US$1800 rig.

With the exchange rate here going at around PhP52.00 to US$1.00, the Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Platinum and ASUS A8N-SLI SE motherboard sure did sucked a lot of money but I'd say it's money well-spent. I don't have enough budget for the Altec Lansing MX5021 so I'll get the MX5020 speakers instead.

Keep the feedbacks coming. :)
 
Before you go spending 10K pesos on a sound card, try those speakers out on the onboard. I think you will be suprised.
You are not going to get the effect out of the SB card, unless you go surround sound.
Getting the 3200 over the P4 is a wise move. For gaming, that 3200 competes well with a 3.6ghz P4.
A thing about multitasking. If you seriously multitask, taskmanager is your friend. Use it to set priorities. This is true for bothe Amd, and Intel systems.
The only shortfall is if you are running a few background apps, and a single main app, on an Intel rig. With HT enabled, the background apps will get far too many cpu cycles. In that case, it is better to disable HT.
 
Shadow fox, are you a radiologist?

No, Sir. I am not a Radiologist or a RadTech. I'm actually new to Medical Transcription and am currently taking the 3-Month MedTrans Program here in the Philippines. 'Figured I could earn a few bucks on the side as a part-time MT for an outsourcing company or maybe as an independent contactor doing home-based medical transcription work during my spare time. Gonna use my earnings to get myself through college.
 
Before you go spending 10K pesos on a sound card, try those speakers out on the onboard. I think you will be suprised.
You are not going to get the effect out of the SB card, unless you go surround sound.
Getting the 3200 over the P4 is a wise move. For gaming, that 3200 competes well with a 3.6ghz P4.
A thing about multitasking. If you seriously multitask, taskmanager is your friend. Use it to set priorities. This is true for bothe Amd, and Intel systems.
The only shortfall is if you are running a few background apps, and a single main app, on an Intel rig. With HT enabled, the background apps will get far too many cpu cycles. In that case, it is better to disable HT.

Thanks for the tip. However, in an age of powerful dual-core CPUs, oodles of memory, and motherboards with integrated multi-channel surround sound, installing a separate soundcard such as the Creative Soundblaster X-Fi has its own advantages. The X-Fi for example is capable of delivering 24 times more power than its predecessors. With such power, the X-Fi is almost future proof and very capable of supporting my PC audio needs well into the future.

Every gamer knows that being the best takes a high level of talent plus the best gaming rig money can buy. Until now, having the best audio in that rig delivered incredibly realistic audio, but because of the limitations of previous generation technology, that didn't necessarily equate to the highest performance. On the other hand, Motherboard audio solutions sacrificed all pretence to quality and realism in the pursuit of high-performance gaming. With the X-Fi, the days of having to choose between ultimate realism and highest performance are over.

The X-Fi has the power to deliver accelerated frame rates during gameplay, even with all the available effects and enhancements turned on.

Aside from PC gaming (mostly simulation games), my rig will be used primarily for home-based medical transcription work. While submarine simulation games are fun and positively identifying the classifcation of an enemy Akula sub through its unique SONAR signature is in itself a challenge... unfortunately, in MedTrans, out there lurk some of the healthcare profession's most chronically bad dictators and some of them are ESL speakers (English as second language). They send you voice files containing dicatations of Patient Health Records, Operative Reports, Consultation Notes, Discharge Summaries, etc. Sometimes these voice files were recorded/dubbed on an analog recorder with all the background/ambient noise clutter included. While digital is "in" thing these days, some healthcare professionals still insist on using old cassette tapes as their preferred medium for file storage. Transcribing files like these are very challenging and sometimes difficult. These records are sensitive documents kept for record and legal purposes. Mistakes in transcription should be avoided.

With the Soundblaster X-Fi's 24-Bit Sound Crystalizer feature, filtering out all the background/ambient noise clutter would make things easier on my part. That translates to fast and accurate transcription. :)
 
$1800 seems a bit high for that system, but I guess if you are including monitor and printer and OS it might be about right. For that budget you should be able to go dual core, which would agree with your 3 year future scenario.

Loose the seperate floppy drive and card reader and install this instead:
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Don't overclock and you can loose the 3rd party CPU cooler and just use the stock fan/heatsink.

Sounds like you are going to do some work on this system, so definitely spring for a second hard drive. Install your OS and apps on one drive, and save all your data and downloads and whatnot on the 2nd drive.

Yeah, the US$1800 budget includes the monitor and all the other bells & whistles I need for my rig. With the exchange rate going at around PhP52.00 to US$1.00, I don't have any extra cash left for the Altec Lansing MX5021 speakers. I'll settle for the MX5020 instead and then invest in a good stereo headset for home-based medical transcription work.
 
Givin that you don't want to have to upgrage the 3200+ is the better choise, it has 64-bit, better gamming, and still good multitasking. The 630 isn't 64-bit and since your using it for medical prescriptions I assume you run some sort of Linux, anyways when Vista comes out you'll get a great operation system that takes advantage of 64-bit.
 
I'm not the architecture expert but I'm pretty sure AMD uses 64-bit extensions just like Intel. I'd heard recently that originally AMD had 2 added instructions sets that Intel lacked, but Intel has added the missing instructions in all their latest cpus making the extensions nearly identical. Maybe someone with a link can clarify.
 
I'm not the architecture expert but I'm pretty sure AMD uses 64-bit extensions just like Intel. I'd heard recently that originally AMD had 2 added instructions sets that Intel lacked, but Intel has added the missing instructions in all their latest cpus making the extensions nearly identical. Maybe someone with a link can clarify.

I don't know about conrunt since intel is behaving very weird about 64-bit extensions on their new line of processors, but I'm damn sure that current P4s lack true 64-bit extensions (they use 38-bit addressing instead of AMD's 40-bit addressing).
 
If this is true that you have been corrected, and still are spouting FUD, then you really need to reflect upon why you feel the need to spread dis-information around these forums.
Innocent dis-information is tolerable, since it can be corrected... and will be in future postings...
Intentional dis-information is a pretty serious offence, IMO.
 
9-nm sounds like a jilted lover, so sad that he resorts to lies to try to convince ppl that Conroe isnt going to be top dog for a while.

At least most other AMD fanboys will show respect to conroe even if they stick with AMD.
 
u can get a much better rig(geared towards gaming) for 1.8k, of course ill give u tips if this is wat u want, the first thing i would do is get rid of both of those setups and buy a core 2 duo ready mobo with a intel d processor or wait till core 2 comes out

9 inch if all u want to do is bash intel, u can go post somewhere else with all the othe amd fanboys
 
Is it? 8O
In Tom's Multitasking II (Winrar, Lame, ogg,WMV) 3200+ is winning.



I was looking at the Tomshardware CPU Charts
and I found out that the P4 630 is way faster in multitasking against the 3200+

Are you blind???
P4 631 is almost 2mins faster then 3200+ in that

I think that you are blind, since you can not read your own post, where you are talking about 630.
630 is loosing in multitasking II to 3200+ venice core.
How did you bring 631 here? :evil:
 
Go for the 3200+... it is better in 3D app in general... However, if i were you... i would wait a bit more until the core duo 2 comes out and upgrade my sys
 
man yo would be better off with the AMD side intel is expensive and dosent match amd on performance that much .Get your self some speedy ram like 667 Mhz for vista and make it above 1Gb ,the graphic card should be anything above 6600GT and your pc shall survive for 2 years .
i hope so 😀 :idea: