News AMD breathes life into Ryzen 5000G family with six new chips — Cezanne with up to eight Zen 3 cores and 4.6 GHz boost clocks

[bit_user]

At least AMD recognizes that not everyone needs the latest and greatest technology packed into their PC. Some of us, just need our personal computer to keep computing the same way it always has.

Intel offers certain models with extended availability & support. In some cases, this extends up to 10 years. For PCs that are integrated into other devices, appliances, machinery, etc. it's very important to have that kind of availability & support from your parts supplier, so that you're not continually having to re-design, re-test, and so that field service techs can still replace individual parts instead of having to do a full swap.

I assume AMD offers something similar, but I have no specific knowledge about that.

 

[-Fran-]

I wonder how many "good" dies AMD still has in store they need to get rid off, lol.

This is starting to fall under the "heroes need live long enough for them to become villains". Or perhaps the family member that doesn't want to pull the plug on the terminally ill person suffering. Come on AMD, unless you really bring something cool to AM4, this is just sad xD

Regards.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I've seen enough RAM go bad, at my job, that I'd generally avoid used stuff. The exception might be if I knew it was good quality and lightly used. Used ECC memory is also something I might consider.


Funny enough, I had a used Intel board (remember when Intel used to make its own motherboards?) in my main PC, for more than a decade. That PC also started out with a used PSU that I replaced when its fan got noisy.

The RAM you see at your job is definitely not on par with the majority of aftermarket memory. Even discounting the heat sinks, the composition is far different between office machine and workstation memory and what you'd generally find in the aftermarket.

But, that's the thing about this industry, everybody has different experiences.

 

[King_V]

Given that we already have Zen 5 chips today, we don’t know how long AMD will milk the Zen 3 architecture. Because of this, Intel called out AMD on this practice — putting out new chips based on much older technologies — even though they’re guilty of doing the same thing.

Ok, a bit of mix and match here, as Intel was complaining about what AMD was doing with laptop chips (and Intel was ALSO doing, but let's not mention that)

But, I still kind of see the ridiculous kind of thing along the lines of:

"How DARE they!! Why is AMD supporting the AM4 ecosystem for so long? They even forced us to create a fake 3rd gen to follow up the 12th and 13th gen, on the same socket! Why can't they force required motherboard upgrades on their customers as we do?"

 

[King_V]

As an additional note, I'm hoping these chips, even down to the 5305G/GE, are available to the public. Maybe it's a little ridiculous, but at one point, I was REALLY curious about the 5300G (sadly, OEM only) as a basic light-gamer build.

Though, I'll admit, while the update on my ASRock A300W from 200GE/2x4GB 2400MHz to 3400GE Pro/2x8GB 3200MHz kind of scratched that itch a bit. Still, I really was curious to experience the 5300G first hand.

 

[bit_user]

Still, I really was curious to experience the 5300G first hand.

For a while, I sort of lusted after the Ryzen 3 3300X. It had only 4 cores, but they were all on the same CCX. That made it both very fast and efficient.

Availability was spotty, though. By the time I was ready to pull the trigger on an AM4 build, I ended up getting the 5800X.

 

[King_V]

For a while, I sort of lusted after the Ryzen 3 3300X. It had only 4 cores, but they were all on the same CCX. That made it both very fast and efficient.

Availability was spotty, though. By the time I was ready to pull the trigger on an AM4 build, I ended up getting the 5800X.

Oh, yeah, I remember that. It was here and gone so quickly, but, likewise, I really wanted to get my hand one one of those at the time!

 

[jon18]

It's great that amd is still creating these apu's. There is a whole world outside the US and most people cannot or won't buy the latest just to have it. Linux can extend the life of pc's even old ddr3 based systems function well with it.

 

[msroadkill612]

Sadly, so many comments here display smug ,ignorant lack of empathy for non first world markets.

Firstly NB that the included GPU in these "G" suffixed APU processors is so distinctively good, it precludes the need for a separate, thirsty and costly GPU & apt PSU.
2/ the am4 platform dev costs are well amortised and problems ironed out.

3/NB also that many such folks rely heavily on PV panels as backup for flaky grids.

This is a product even the very poorest can afford and use. Well done AMD. AM4 has been wonderfully enduring, unlike rotten, rapidly obsolescent I phone & Ipad.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Sadly, 100% of these articles are fully not intended to be directed towards folks who live in non-first world markets, because they do not make up the bulk of the hardware purchasing market.

 

[msroadkill612]

Sadly, 100% of these articles are fully not intended to be directed towards folks who live in non-first world markets, because they do not make up the bulk of the hardware purchasing market.

The article just reported the facts. It is the commenters saying that nobody needs this rubbish, who are the problem. they lack wisdom and empathy. There may well be a bigger market for these, than for 1st world products by volume. How many villiagers in India/Africa e.g. who lack proper access to basic IT?

 

[bit_user]

The article just reported the facts. It is the commenters saying that nobody needs this rubbish, who are the problem. they lack wisdom and empathy. There may well be a bigger market for these, than for 1st world products by volume. How many villiagers in India/Africa e.g. who lack proper access to basic IT?

I'm basically with you, but you do raise interesting questions. These products are obviously right for someone, or else AMD wouldn't be refreshing the model numbers. However, I sort of doubt it's villagers in low-income countries who would be buying them. My weakly-informed opinion is that those markets are primarily fed by recycled/refurbish e-waste from richer countries and from cheap & disposable laptops & mini-PCs that have everything soldered down and cut every corner to hit the lowest price points.

My guess is that people still building socketed AM4 desktops are mostly commercial & industrial customers. Of course, there will be people with a little more money who want to build upgradable PCs, even in developing countries, and they might certainly reach for AM4/DDR4 as a good option. I just don't know if that's enough of a market to drive these new SKUs, or if this is really more about business customers.