AMD CPU speculation... and expert conjecture

[skitz9417]

have u got a source of that amd confirmed saying that

 

[tonync_01]

amd already confirmed its only coming out 2014 as earliest, what month thats to be said.

anybody else who says otherwise if full of balony, considering thats an official statement from amd, they can always released it sooner but officially its 2014.

The article says its a new Piledriver cpu (FX) in June, not steamroller.

 

[iceclock]

lol, this is a steamroller speculation not piledriver, also those piledriver cpus arent gonna be performance desktop cpus mostly mobile and low-powered 2-4cores cpus. nothing exciting tbh.

 

[iceclock]

http://wccftech.com/amd-launching-28nm-kaveri-apu-steamroller-cores-2013/

yep. 2014 mate. booyah

 

[BeastLeeX]

I have to agree with iceclock, If AMD can successfully get a 30-40% performance (just speculation from rumors, some people think 20-25%) increase for Bulldozer to Steamroller, I am pretty sure they will break out their APU (Kaveri) before they bust out the FX version. The APU would easily net more money for AMD, expecially if they sell THEIR 2133 or 1866 memory with OEM systems(making money from the CPU and memory at the same time for each system sold.)

 

[iceclock]

i mean id buy steamroller if it was out this year, but i need an upgrade sadly will be i5 3570k or xeon 4core. depending if i overclock or not.

 

[skitz9417]

well i hope that steamroller will be 20% over my phemon

 

[BeastLeeX]

well i hope that steamroller will be 20% over my phemon

It should be, because Piledriver beats it by about 5%. 15% improvement over Piledriver should be within reach for AMD. Also the 28nm could help along with the high density library if I understand it correctly, resulting in less heat and power usage if I am understanding this architectural update correctly.

 

[iceclock]

whynot aim for 18nm

 

[BeastLeeX]

Pretty sure AMD has to rely on TSMC and GloFo for their chips, but 20nm is in sight!

 

[Cazalan]

AMD's CTO said Steamroller was finished in August 2012, yet later in the year it suddenly got delayed. Any chance AMD sold the initial Steamroller APU's off to Sony to bake their PS4?

Jaguar sounds too underpowered for a console that's to last 5+ years.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/amd_papermaster_steamroller_seamicro_opteron/


Notice the "Liverpool" codename died after the rumored delays. Now the rumor is Jaguar which is the next new core to come out.

 

[BeastLeeX]

It not underpowered if the games are optimized correctly, which is why a gt 7600 (PS3) can still play games like Skyrim.

 

[m32]

whynot aim for 18nm

AMD wanted 22nm but GloFo couldn't deliver (d@mn lairs). I wish the other Chip Foundries could at least produce 22nm. I'm talking about today, not next year...

 

[BeastLeeX]

Have you guys looked at the architecture? The high density library looks interesting, according to AMD bulldozer's arch could take up 30% less space in the same 32nm fab. Not sure how this will impact performance though.

 

[BeastLeeX]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Steamroller-High_Density_Libraries-hot-chips-cpu-gpu,17218.html

There we go! Up to 30% more power efficient! Sounds good to me.

 

[iceclock]

i want 30% more power not efficient. power -_-

 

[BeastLeeX]

I'm thinking higher stock and OC clocks, lets hope Steamy has better OC scaling then Piledriver, and it should please the OEM market.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Just remember, as the market has shifted, we will see changes in line ups and releases.
If Intel or AMD didnt do this, theyd just be losing money.
If you look at Dell and whats going on there, even they were surprised by the market switch and drop off.

So DT may take a back seat on releases in the future, as this effects AMD more, due to their clientele base vs Intel, tho Intel also is changing.

 

[skitz9417]

+1 i hope steamroller will be a really good overclocker and have better single theard performce

 

[griptwister]

AMD's CTO said Steamroller was finished in August 2012, yet later in the year it suddenly got delayed. Any chance AMD sold the initial Steamroller APU's off to Sony to bake their PS4?

Jaguar sounds too underpowered for a console that's to last 5+ years.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/29/amd_papermaster_steamroller_seamicro_opteron/


Notice the "Liverpool" codename died after the rumored delays. Now the rumor is Jaguar which is the next new core to come out.

Interesting that you should say that! We shall find out Feb 18th I believe... Especially if xbox is coming out with a 8core cpu lol..

 

[BeastLeeX]

Just remember, as the market has shifted, we will see changes in line ups and releases.
If Intel or AMD didnt do this, theyd just be losing money.
If you look at Dell and whats going on there, even they were surprised by the market switch and drop off.

So DT may take a back seat on releases in the future, as this effects AMD more, due to their clientele base vs Intel, tho Intel also is changing.

True, I also want to see how well the Xbox 720/PS4 will help AMD. Some people say that it will just keep them alive, and others say it should boost their net profits by a decent amount.

 

[BeastLeeX]

+1 i hope steamroller will be a really good overclocker and have better single theard performce

Im not trying to say that Piledriver is a bad overclocker, it's just that the scaling sucks. 500Mhz on Intel is much better than 500Mhz for AMD in most single or low threaded applications. So with Steamy I wanna see a ton of single threaded performance increase over Piledriver, and better OC scaling. I personally don't care about TDP, so 125w vs 77w in a desktop is no biggy.

 

[skitz9417]

yea i hate how people oh it has a lower tdp like who cares

 

[noob2222]

i want 30% more power not efficient. power -_-

you can't continually die shrink whout shrinking power consumption, you can't increase clock speeds without reducing power. this is a good thing.

 

[iceclock]

oh i agree. im just saying. im looking forward to a powerful cpu. amd needs a powerhorse on there shoulder. no wonder there losing money, first bought ati. than stop competing with intel. now gonna mostly do arms chips. i hope they dont scrap there performance series. cuz im gonna be pissed.