News AMD delays its Ryzen 9000 launch due to unspecified quality issue — new launch in August; chipmaker pulls back all units shipped globally for quali...

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AMD announced today that it has delayed its Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 launch due to an unspecified quality issue. As a result, AMD tells us it has pulled back all Ryzen 9000 units it has delivered to retailers and OEMs worldwide.

AMD delays its Ryzen 9000 launch due to unspecified quality issue — new launch in August; chipmaker pulls back all units shipped globally for quali... : Read more

 

[bourgeoisdude]

"AMD's issue crops up as its rival Intel has taken an increasing amount of criticism for allowing crashing issues to fester for months before announcing a fix days ago. AMD clearly doesn't want to make the same mistake. "

Smart move. I'd much rather a few weeks delay to potentially faulty CPUs.

 

[thestryker]

I wonder if this is why there have been a bunch of reports by reviewers that they haven't gotten samples yet. I'm glad AMD caught this before it got in the hands of end users as it's significantly easier to deal with now and better for everyone.

 

[Makaveli]

2 week delay is fine to ensure a proper launch.

 

[helper800]

They should delay it as long as they need to. Lets not have another incident.

 

[A Stoner]

Seem cryptic and might have something to do with encryption.

 

[txfeinbergs]

They should delay it as long as they need to. Lets not have another incident.

Let's not have another Intel.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

It shouldn't be unprecedented after what happened with the first few batches of Zen 1 chips, though this sounds like a IHS issue, faulty soldering or the like, since they're going to send this first wave back out.

 

[coromonadalix]

yep same toughts, was Intel able to do so, or they where in a rush to put their faultys in the market ?

 

[-Fran-]

The quality issue with AMD's CPUs is called "Intel screwing with us".

Smart move by AMD, BTW.

I'm eagerly awaiting on Intel excusing itself for not having the BIOS ready before the 15th Aug.

Regards.

 

[Geekaycee]

AMD: let's see how much the performance decreases after the microcode update, Intel. Then we can crush you even harder.

 

[TheHerald]

AMD: let's see how much the performance decreases after the microcode update, Intel. Then we can crush you even harder.

I'm going to make predictions. 9600x vs 13600k and 9700x vs 13700k will be a walk in the park win for intel, with or without the fixes. Won't even be competitive.

The new shiny R7 9700x might beat the i7 12700k from 3 generations ago in MT performance. Or at least come close.

If matching or barely beating a 3 generations old intel cpu is considered crushing then yes, amd will absolutely crush Intel (intel from 2021).

 

[Kona45primo]

TheHerald, in which benchmarks are you thinking Intel will beat AMD?




Tell me AMD didn't use Intel foundry on some chiplets PLEASE!

 

[Geekaycee]

TheHerald, in what world are you living?

Tell me AMD didn't use Intel foundry on some chiplets PLEASE!

Don't feed the troll. Ignoring them is the best medicine.

 

[TheHerald]

TheHerald, in what world are you living? (Or which benchmarks are you thinking Intel will beat AMD?)

Everything that is MT, I predict 9700x ~= 12700k and 9600x =~ 12600k. The 13700k / 13600k will fly past them both. Come back after the reviews and let's see if I'm right. I won't hide, I hope you won't either.

Here, I'll even add it on my signature so everyone can see how big of a fool I was after the reviews are made public

 

[Amdlova]

Crush and destroy is like kid words
Reality amd and intel is just milking the consumers and don't give a hoot what anyone think or says.

AMD with that chipset (Asmedia) it's no go for me.
New intel cpus with no gains at all. Another no go.

Will keep the lga1700 for long long time

 

[TheHerald]

Crush and destroy is like kid words
Reality amd and intel is just milking the consumers and don't give a hoot what anyone think or says.

AMD with that chipset (Asmedia) it's no go for me.
New intel cpus with no gains at all. Another no go.

Will keep the lga1700 for long long time

I don't think they are milking, I think the desktop chips are an afterthought. Mobile and servers is where the money is at, desktop just gets the leftovers.

 

[cbotmk3]

Maybe AMD wants to somehow counter Intel's delaying tactics with their instability problems
It might very well be that Intel's Microcode update will slow down their CPUs a few percent.

Intel's update will come out in "mid August" while AMD has delayed their flagship CPUs to August 15th 🤔

 

[TheHerald]

Maybe AMD wants to somehow counter Intel's delaying tactics with their instability problems
It might very well be that Intel's Microcode update will slow down their CPUs a few percent.

Intel's update will come out in "mid August" while AMD has delayed their flagship CPUs to August 15th 🤔

Yeah but does it really matter? The real competion is arl, not rpl.

 

[cbotmk3]

You mean Arrow Lake? Probably, but when will that come out, end of the year?
Benchmark comparisons against 13900k / 14900k starting mid August will be more interesting IMHO.

 

[das_stig]

Intel take note, better to delay and check than release a broken product and keep quiet !

 

[Zerk2012]

It's still bad to ship them out then you call them back for some reason because you found a problem after the fact.

The problem should of been found before it was shipped. I would probably put that on the investors saying lets start making money back on this.

Most of the problem these days is both companies try to get the extra little bit of performance out of their chips to get the performance gain on the other.

Does it really matter to your average consumer if you beat the others performance by 3% or so, I don't think so.
You have people that buy Intel because they always have, people that buy AMD for the same reason, then the people that don't have unlimited money and just buy what they can get in the price range they have (most have no clue of actual performance)

The people like us that keep up with the tech sites are a very small portion of the market.
The company I work for as a example (world wide) we buy Dell PC's and LT's, Samsung phones and tablets.

 

[subspruce]

Arrow Lake is months away, I can see why they did it, they'll be able to sell more if they're stable.

 

[spoidz]

Were these also coming with new Motherboards for new features/lanes on the CPU?

I'm about a month out of upgrading to a AMD build and was going to just start with 7800X3D anyway but will this CPU delay also delay new MB releases?

 

[TheHerald]

I would assume you never read the link to ADOBE about Premier Pro. If you had you would have seen this in the first two paragraphs instead of trying to yet another Intel homer statement.

"People who say that Premiere Pro does not support multi-cores don't understand how multi-core support works. What you're asking about is optimization for high core counts, which is different.

Premiere uses multiple cores. Cores are independent CPU processors that can be assigned tasks. Premiere breaks this down with tasks for decoding codecs, applying CPU-driven effects, encoding to specific codecs, etc. Some of these threads may use a core more than other cores, and right now, an "optimal" number of cores is somewhere around the 8-12 mark."

Apparently it isn't, since 7600x = 7950x. Are you saying these 2 cpus offer the same MT performance?

I am going to assume that you don't speak German and are just posting random things to once again most the goal post. That word basically means overall rating. You said "Everything that is MT, I predict 9700x ~= 12700k and 9600x =~ 12600k. The 13700k / 13600k will fly past them both. Come back after the reviews and let's see if I'm right. I won't hide, I hope you won't either" NOT overall rating in MT workloads. Therefore ANY multi-threaded benchmark that gives the 7700X or 7600X a lead over the 13700k or 13600k already proves your point wrong. In Tomshardware review of the 13700k we see that the AMD CPUs are faster in Adobe. Could be that the Intel chips were being loaded on the e-cores since it is a MT workload that can use more p-cores than those CPUs have. Overall the result is still a MT benchmark that disproves your statement.

My man, you can even see the apps they tested. It's their multithreaded test suite. Overall means overall in the MT tests they've run. They have a different overall score for single threaded.

This is tom's hardware MT test suite. Clearly both the 7600x and the 7700x are getting pummeled, an so will their zen 5 replacements. Stop being weird and accept the facts, why are we arguing about self evident stuff?

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