Question AMD desktop APU (8700G) vs mobile (AI HX370) performance in miniPC ?

[Quinn2_Santini3]

As the first mini PCs with latest AMD's marvels have come out, I wonder how would they measure against existing desktop APUs on AM5,
both in graphic tasks (12 CUxRDNA3 vs 16CUxRDNA3.5) and CPU tasks (8xZen4 vs 4xZen5+8xZen5c), preferrably for Linux.

Anyone with some new data to share on that ?

 

[Aeacus]

AI 9 HX 370 is quite a bit better than R7 8700G.
Comparison 1: https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-AI-9-HX-370-vs-Ryzen-7-8700G
Comparison 2: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_ai_9_hx_370-vs-amd_ryzen_7_8700g
Comparison 3: https://versus.com/en/amd-ryzen-7-8700g-vs-amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370

 

[Quinn2_Santini3]

I don't believe a word in those auto-generated synthetic comparisons.

 

[Aeacus]

I don't believe a word in those auto-generated synthetic comparisons.

Then buy both systems, run the benchmark side-by-side and see which of the two is better.

Specs alone say that HX 370 is better. (2nd link i gave has nice specs comparison.)

 

[Quinn2_Santini3]

All they have i s Cinebench and Geekbench under unspecified conditions.
Same for tabelaric spec listing.
I don't care about paper specs but real world experience under various loads, like Blender, video encoding, compiling , ML etc.

 

[Aeacus]

but real world experience under various loads, like Blender, video encoding, compiling , ML etc.

Here are reviews of the two CPUs, specifically render tests;
HX 370: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21485/the-amd-ryzen-ai-hx-370-review/7
8700G: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21242/amd-ryzen-7-8700g-and-ryzen-5-8600g-review/6

Compare the results to get your answer.

 

[Quinn2_Santini3]

These aren't really comparable. That AI HX370 is running at 28W TDP in laptop with cramped cooling while 8700G runs at 3x TDP with far better cooling on desktop.

I've tried to compare couple Linux benchmarks on Phoronix, but have the same problems.
On top of that, Michael doesn't keep his tests consistent.
For example, compile tests don't compile the same code.

 

[helper800]

These aren't really comparable. That AI HX370 is running at 28W TDP in laptop with cramped cooling while 8700G runs at 3x TDP with far better cooling on desktop.

I've tried to compare couple Linux benchmarks on Phoronix, but have the same problems.
On top of that, Michael doesn't keep his tests consistent.
For example, compile tests don't compile the same code.

Seems you need to either trust something or buy them both and test your super special use case. I would bet you 100:1 that the AI 9 HX 370 is faster in your use case.

 

[Quinn2_Santini3]

There is no mini-ITX MoBo with AI9 HX yet, so I can't test it myself, even if I wanted to.

I was just curious about its potentials at maximal TDPs and good cooling.