News AMD exec reveals Ryzen 9 9950X3D, Ryzen 9 9900X3D gaming performance — similar to Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[usertests]

I don't get it. Is there really a market for these chips? Literally every AAA game can be perfectly played with a regular Ryzen 9 9950, so why would a professional content creator sacrifice quite some rendering performance in order to get a few more meaningless fps? AMD should rather push more 9800X3D chips for the gaming crowd and more 9950 CPUs for serious workstation tasks instead of wasting time and precious resources for a "Frankenstein" 9950X3D that presumably nobody needs.

There are people who actually like the X3D + non-X3D setup. Here's Bryan Heemskerk giving a glowing endorsement of the 7950X3D while talking with MLID.

View: https://youtu.be/nvjb8HPZbZU?t=4680


I think that type of buyer is rare, and many were disappointed that both CCDs don't come with V-Cache (whether they actually need it or not). There are some professional workloads that benefit from extra cache (that's why Epyc X3D exists after all), lower power used in some scenarios, and no scheduling problems if both CCDs were to have X3D.

As an example, almost everything on this page of Phoronix's 7950X3D review benefited from X3D:
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen9-7950x3d-linux/9

 

[SonoraTechnical]

resting on it' s laurels.... AMD should have made the 3D Vcache for both CCDs... but they didn't... becuase the market doesn't demand they do.... doing just barely enough to remain competitive... laurel resting....

 

[HideOut]

AMD Manager Martijn Boonstra said that the Ryzen 9 9950X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D chips will perform similarly to the Ryzen 7 9800X3D in gaming.

AMD exec reveals Ryzen 9 9950X3D, Ryzen 9 9900X3D gaming performance — similar to Ryzen 7 9800X3D : Read more

"Although the Ryzen 7 9800X3D has been on the market for several months,"

Nope, just over 2. In no one's mind is that "several"

 

[A Stoner]

resting on it' s laurels.... AMD should have made the 3D Vcache for both CCDs... but they didn't... becuase the market doesn't demand they do.... doing just barely enough to remain competitive... laurel resting....

I think if they did actually do that it would create a market for those. More developers would tune their products to take advantage of the added caching.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Ironic coming from the people with endless articles touting 'gaming performance' in relation to CPU's when it is shown in comprehensive benchmarks that above 1080p there's only single digit FPS differences between the newest high end CPU's and 5 year old i5's, it's not even an 'added perk' it's nothing.

This argument doesn't really hold true:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/dXQmGZbdFLC5izEoqZVB8Z.png

If you take, for example, a Ryzen 5600x - 146fps (my own CPU), and compare it to even just the 5800x3d - 189fps, it's clear that the CPU does have an effect at 1440p, and then some. Single digits isn't close. That's a 30% uplift. And that's without any of the Zen 4/5 CPU's or RL Intel. Of course the caveat here is each indivdual game may be slightly different, but there's not doubt a modern CPU helps at 1440p.

 

[Mama Changa]

"Why would you spend extra for the same gaming performance?"

Your head examination is due

Yeah, we are all just gamer losers and don't do anything else with our computer.

 

[bill001g]

This argument doesn't really hold true:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/dXQmGZbdFLC5izEoqZVB8Z.png

If you take, for example, a Ryzen 5600x - 146fps (my own CPU), and compare it to even just the 5800x3d - 189fps, it's clear that the CPU does have an effect at 1440p, and then some. Single digits isn't close. That's a 30% uplift. And that's without any of the Zen 4/5 CPU's or RL Intel. Of course the caveat here is each indivdual game may be slightly different, but there's not doubt a modern CPU helps at 1440p.

So you have a 4090 and only run it at 1440.

 

[VizzieTheViz]

So you have a 4090 and only run it at 1440.

I could see someone having a high refresh rate screen and using a 4090 for that, sure. Why wouldn’t that be a valid use case?

Noticing the difference between 150 and 180 fps, not with my eyesight but some people might.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

So you have a 4090 and only run it at 1440.

No, I've a 4070 Super at 1440p. And I understand that the increase in FPS won't be as much with lesser GPU's.

 

[Quirkz]

I don't get it. Is there really a market for these chips? Literally every AAA game can be perfectly played with a regular Ryzen 9 9950, so why would a professional content creator sacrifice quite some rendering performance in order to get a few more meaningless fps? AMD should rather push more 9800X3D chips for the gaming crowd and more 9950 CPUs for serious workstation tasks instead of wasting time and precious resources for a "Frankenstein" 9950X3D that presumably nobody needs.

Those of us who need plenty of compute, work from home, and don't want to buy another machine for gaming.

There's a market, and it's a solid one.