sarinaide :
You had to come in here and kick up a fuss about the "my intel is faster than yours" rhetoric that is rather dull and boring, kinda like the product range. Anyways the OP asked which is better between the two options and he/she later confirmed that the budget facilitated better for AMD so this is rather pointless. If you feel the need to master of the universe your chip do so in a nearest intel circlejerk thread.
As for some insight, my A10 5800K at stock with a 7850 maintains well over 60FPS, more like 70+ FPS in titles like BF3 with maxed settings, some argued that this CPU at $130 lacked puch, clearly they were wrong, at that price baring in mind my monitor is a 60hz monitor so anything upper 60FPS is unnoticeable, even a lowly APU proves to be a gaming piece at a low enough cost to replace with its replacement whenever it so comes....better yet it is on the same socket.
Good luck replacing that setup of yours, sure it will be sufficient but it will be old superceeded tech, and on a EOL socket in about 6 months from now.......Enjoy.
wow, i really don't know how to begin. my mind is so full of your ignorance right now i really don't even know where to begin. first of all, as you can see before my edit, i actually believed you and just asked for some proof to hopefully learn something. then i thought about it for a minute and realized what you said can't be true, explained why it can't be true, and then asked for proof of your info. how is that bragging about my CPU being faster than yours?! how did you come up with that?! that is just insanely stupid! i am DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO KICK UP A FUSS! that is like finding a tomshardware benchmark and saying that they are trying to kick up a fuss saying Intel performs better than AMD in games! they are just stating the facts, just like i did!!! how is this so hard to wrap your head around? this whole damn thing is so stupid!
yes, he said he is on a tight budget and AMD would better suit his build. (even though in benchmarks a 80$ Pentium G2120 is better/the same as the FX8xxx series) i understand that. my edit was for you, not for him. it's not in any way, shape or form related to him and yes, is useless to him. who said it was? who said it has to be? anyway, you get the point. i replied to you asking for proof of the obviously fake info, then later on explaining how what you said was impossible, and asked where you were getting your info from. that's all. i was just ASKING. that is it. i was discussing with you, not trying to cause an argument. i can't have a friendly discussion with you? you still haven't told me where you got that info from, which leads me to think you are just an AMD fanboy, which would explain why you completely exploded when i said Intel performs better in gaming and asked for your proof, which again, i still don't have. hell, i could have been wrong. if you did have some proof, i would have looked at it, and said i was wrong. big deal. i learned something new. it's not like i'm going to deny the fact that AMD beat Intel! AMD and Intel are both great! it's just that Intel is WELL known to be better at gaming than AMD, AND THAT IS ALL I SAID!
no, your system doesn't get a 60+ fps constantly. the 7850 is like a more efficient gtx 570, which absolutely does not sit a 60+ FPS constantly. sure, at calm moments, they will obviously get 70+ FPS. that's normal. but the dip is what matters. they both have dips down into the 30s at intense moments all the time. even my gtx680 overclocked out the a** dips down to the high 40s, but usually runs at around 120FPS. and this is running on a 3770k, which is roughly 1.5-2x faster than a 5800k. get over yourself. again, i'm not defending Intel or Nvidia. just stating facts. but, your system is awesome. that is a pretty highend gaming rig and is fully capable of running the most intensive games on the market maxed out.
i'm not so sure what you were trying to get at with the last bit you said... i think you were trying to imply that it will be cheaper for you to upgrade your AMD based build than my Intel based build. yes, it will be cheaper. when you upgrade i will cost much less than me because you will be using the same socket motherboard. but, i won't be upgrading to the next generation Intel CPUs, because my 3770k is twice as powerful and has twice as many threads as your 5800k, so there really is no need. and who knows, maybe my 3770k will still be even more powerful than what you upgraded to. if AMD progresses as slowly as they are right now, my 3770k will definitely still be much faster than what you upgrade too. i simply don't need to or want to upgrade to the next generation, where you might want to because of how far behind AMD is when it comes to clock performance. so when i do finally upgrade, it will be about 500$+.
so you want to upgrade to the next gen. that is lets say 130$ for the upgrade. you spent 130$.
my 3770k is still kicking a**, i skip the generation. i spent 0.
AMD will most likely have a new socket. that is about 275$ for a new mobo and CPU. and if they don't, lets add 150$ for the CPU. you have now spent a total of 405$ if AMD has a new socket and 280$ if they don't have a new one.
i still don't really need to upgrade because my cpu is still keeping up with games, but it's struggling a bit. i can hold out for another year.
by now, AMD has got to have changed their CPU socket. 300$ for CPU and mobo. that's a total of 580$ if they didn't change it last year, (which is the most likely) and 705$ if they changed it again.
i'm due for an upgrade. i spend 530$ for a new mobo and CPU, and we are back in the same position. i have a CPU around 1.5x-2x faster than yours, and i don't have to swap parts around every year. and best of all, i save money which can be put towards a better GPU, and my system is still overall better than yours.
so, yes. amd is cheaper to upgrade. but since you need to upgrade so damn much to keep up with highend gaming, you end up spending more.
i know, i went WAY too overkill, but seriously. the stupidity and ignorance in your reply just drove me crazy and i can't sit back and watch this nonsense happen. you had no reason to freak out on me. i was just having a normal everyday discussion with you about AMD vs Intel when it comes to gaming. i didn't even imply i owned a Intel CPU, so i don't know where you got me trying to brag about my CPU being faster than yours. (even though it is, but that is besides the point and doesn't matter AT ALL).
by the way, i still wait for that proof. unless you just pulled that out of your a** to defend AMD. :lol: