AMD FX-8320 vs Intel core i5-3470

[RedDave]

which is better for gaming and multitasking.
I might also use photoshop and after effects.

 

[swilczak]

The i5 is probably a little bit better for gaming and the 8320 should be better for multi-tasking because it has twice as many threads. That's really a tough question because each application uses the CPU differently. In synthetic testing the 8320 wins and it can be overclock for an easy 15% boost in performance.

 

[RedDave]

The i5 is probably a little bit better for gaming and the 8320 should be better for multi-tasking because it has twice as many threads. That's really a tough question because each application uses the CPU differently. In synthetic testing the 8320 wins and it can be overclock for an easy 15% boost in performance.

yeah it is a tough decision. but which one do you think is more future proof?

 

[swilczak]

Since games will likely use more threads in the future and since many future games will be designed to run on AMD chips due to the fact that the PS4 and xbox one use AMD, I would get the 8320. I have an 8320 and it works good for my gaming needs so far.

 

[RedDave]

Since games will likely use more threads in the future and since many future games will be designed to run on AMD chips due to the fact that the PS4 and xbox one use AMD, I would get the 8320. I have an 8320 and it works good for my gaming needs so far.

thanks, I think I'm going with FX-8320. What GPU are you using?

 

[ericjohn004]

There's no such thing as "Future Proof". Reality as it stands right now suggests that a 3470 is a lot better for gaming. Games that I play like World of Tanks, and other online games, as well as games like Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, and CODII all use 4 cores are less. World of Tanks only uses 2 cores and many online games only use 2 cores. So it's important to have really powerful cores. A 3470 has REALLY powerful cores so it will perform a lot better than an 8320 that has REALLY weak cores.

Would you rather have 4 powerful cores or 8 weak ones? If all you do is multitask then the 8320 might be a little better. But the 3470 isn't faar off from the 8320 in multitasking, maybe like 10% slower, and the 8320 is way far behind in single threaded performance as well as programs that use 4 cores or less by like 50%.

As far as games using 8 cores. Yeah, it'll happen, but I don't see it happening ANY time soon. More like 5 years from now when you'll need a new CPU any ways. Even games that take advantage of 8 cores like Crysis 3 still perform better on a 3470 than an 8320 when you crank the resolution down and put the load on the CPU. Explain that? It's because of per core performance. It's really important for you CPU to have powerful cores because many programs and games don't use all of your CPU.

I checked a benchmark site and of the 35 benchmarks and games they tested the 3470 won 21 and the 8320 won 14. The games were all won by the 3470.

 

[ericjohn004]

Btw, why aren't you getting a K version like the 3570k? You can't overclock a 3470 and it's about the same price. I find that to be an extreme waste. Even if you don't want to overclock, still get the 3570k, it's clocked higher and if you want to overclock in the future, it's there for you.

 

[swilczak]

Since games will likely use more threads in the future and since many future games will be designed to run on AMD chips due to the fact that the PS4 and xbox one use AMD, I would get the 8320. I have an 8320 and it works good for my gaming needs so far.

thanks, I think I'm going with FX-8320. What GPU are you using?

I'm using a Radeon 7950 boost. The difference between the i5 and 8320 is probably only a few frames and it makes no difference if you are using a 60hz monitor and staying at 60 fps or higher which all of my games do with this configuration.

 

[swilczak]

Nobody has a definite answer for future proofing a PC, all we can do is try to predict what will happen in the future and hopefully be right about it.

 

[chrisafp07]

Go for the 8320. Especially since you will be doing some photoshop as you will definitely notice the difference between the i5 and FX there. They are both solid cpus, as one poster did mention above if you do go for the i5 you may as well just get the 3570k for the price difference.

 

[RedDave]

There's no such thing as "Future Proof". Reality as it stands right now suggests that a 3470 is a lot better for gaming. Games that I play like World of Tanks, and other online games, as well as games like Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, and CODII all use 4 cores are less. World of Tanks only uses 2 cores and many online games only use 2 cores. So it's important to have really powerful cores. A 3470 has REALLY powerful cores so it will perform a lot better than an 8320 that has REALLY weak cores.

Would you rather have 4 powerful cores or 8 weak ones? If all you do is multitask then the 8320 might be a little better. But the 3470 isn't faar off from the 8320 in multitasking, maybe like 10% slower, and the 8320 is way far behind in single threaded performance as well as programs that use 4 cores or less by like 50%.

As far as games using 8 cores. Yeah, it'll happen, but I don't see it happening ANY time soon. More like 5 years from now when you'll need a new CPU any ways. Even games that take advantage of 8 cores like Crysis 3 still perform better on a 3470 than an 8320 when you crank the resolution down and put the load on the CPU. Explain that? It's because of per core performance. It's really important for you CPU to have powerful cores because many programs and games don't use all of your CPU.

I checked a benchmark site and of the 35 benchmarks and games they tested the 3470 won 21 and the 8320 won 14. The games were all won by the 3470.

Isn't most games rely mainly on your GPU? I don't mind losing a few frames as long I get a better multi threaded preformance besides as swilczak mentioned i think multi threads is the future. As for weak cores they are weaker than i5 but I don't they are that much weak.

 

[RedDave]

Btw, why aren't you getting a K version like the 3570k? You can't overclock a 3470 and it's about the same price. I find that to be an extreme waste. Even if you don't want to overclock, still get the 3570k, it's clocked higher and if you want to overclock in the future, it's there for you.

Go for the 8320. Especially since you will be doing some photoshop as you will definitely notice the difference between the i5 and FX there. They are both solid cpus, as one poster did mention above if you do go for the i5 you may as well just get the 3570k for the price difference.

Here in my country the price difference between i5-3470 and i5-3570k is big. So I can't buy as I still want to get a good GPU. I would have bought the K version over the FX but my budget is very limited.

 

[CooLWoLF]

Buy the best you can afford.

 

[swilczak]

I love how people say in future fx series will run games better due to consoles. Its a load of rubbish, if anything if games tax the cpu more intels raw performance will destroy amd even more. Also I find it funny one of the worst efficient cpus is considered future proof compared to a cpu thats 2x better performance per watt. In 2014 I expect 25w cpus from intel to outperform the fx8350.

Games can be designed to work well with a certain CPU architecture. AMD's FX CPU's are very unique with 8 integer clusters, 4 modules and a lot of cache. You have no idea what will happen in the future so please stop speculating that Intel will always be better just because they are better right now. Remember 10 years ago when Microsoft had a lot more money than Apple? Well they don't anymore. Things can turn around real fast for AMD if they make the right moves, which they seem to be doing in the gaming industry.

 

[8350rocks]

I love how people say in future fx series will run games better due to consoles. Its a load of rubbish, if anything if games tax the cpu more intels raw performance will destroy amd even more. Also I find it funny one of the worst efficient cpus is considered future proof compared to a cpu thats 2x better performance per watt. In 2014 I expect 25w cpus from intel to outperform the fx8350.

Games can be designed to work well with a certain CPU architecture. AMD's FX CPU's are very unique with 8 integer clusters, 4 modules and a lot of cache. You have no idea what will happen in the future so please stop speculating that Intel will always be better just because they are better right now. Remember 10 years ago when Microsoft had a lot more money than Apple? Well they don't anymore. Things can turn around real fast for AMD if they make the right moves, which they seem to be doing in the gaming industry.

+1

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

I love how people say in future fx series will run games better due to consoles. Its a load of rubbish, if anything if games tax the cpu more intels raw performance will destroy amd even more. Also I find it funny one of the worst efficient cpus is considered future proof compared to a cpu thats 2x better performance per watt. In 2014 I expect 25w cpus from intel to outperform the fx8350.

Your post defies logic. CPUs being taxed more isn't what people are talking about per-say. What people are talking about is Multi-Threading (the ability to run multiple different threads of information on multiple CPU cores). This means spreading around the work onto more cores (8 integer cores in this case) rather than taxing a single core or two at 100%.

The upcoming consoles from Microsoft and Sony will feature AMD Jaguar-like cores (8 of them) as well as an AMD GPU. Games coded around these platforms (using the AMD Development kit) will make use of those 8 cores as well as various AMD compute and SIMD features. This isn't a possibility but rather a statement of fact.

Therefore what some are saying is that AMD CPU's may just yet get a boost in upcoming titles launching around the same time as those two consoles. It is a very logical assumption for one to make. Maybe these people don't intend to upgrade for a few years and want a more steady platform for the duration of this time.

As for power savings, some websites calculated the savings in electricity... I believe it was something like $19 in a year.

 

[chrisafp07]

In that case the difference between an intel i5 quad and fx8000 series will come down but still if both intel and amd competitive cpus using there cores intel will win. Intel already wins on 100% cpu tasks like video encoding over the fx8350.

Yea but no ones cares about that. This poster is trying to get an answer for value, take your fanboyism elsewhere. We all know core for core Intel is stronger but that doesn't mean they make a better cpu, now go away.

 

[RedDave]

I think we went a little off topic. So what do you people think is a better all round CPU not only for gaming but for everything (multitasking, video editing, photoshop and may be some programming) that can last me like 3-4 years. Which one should I go for?

 

[chrisafp07]

I think we went a little off topic. So what do you people think is a better all round CPU not only for gaming but for everything (multitasking, video editing, photoshop and may be some programming) that can last me like 3-4 years. Which one should I go for?

The 8320 for sure, if you are doing editing and photoshop you will be using all of the 8320's 8 cores and will see better performance in all heavily multi-threaded applications, that really is where the FX cpus do very well right now. They also game comparatively well to i5s and i7s so for an all around best choice the 8 core will benefit your needs.

 

[chrisafp07]

I think we went a little off topic. So what do you people think is a better all round CPU not only for gaming but for everything (multitasking, video editing, photoshop and may be some programming) that can last me like 3-4 years. Which one should I go for?

The 8320 for sure, if you are doing editing and photoshop you will be using all of the 8320's 8 cores and will see better performance in all heavily multi-threaded applications, that really is where the FX cpus do very well right now. They also game comparatively well to i5s and i7s so for an all around best choice the 8 core will benefit your needs.

I like how amd fanboys think just because amd cpu with 8 cores will beat a 4 core intel cpu.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/5

Wow the i5 3470 destroys the amd cpu. Piledriver and bulldozer are a load of rubbish. I think it must be the biggest lead in history between intel and amd. Its astonishing how on 32nm amd have actually gone backwards from there 45nm cpus. Intel have improved massively since there 45nm cpus, like 2x better at half the power on 22nm while amd on 32nm gone backwards in performance taking more electricity generally on the fx4000 and 6000 cpus.

I'm simply stating that an 8 core cpu will benefit more for what he is doing. Video editing in particular loves threads. I mean cmon relax, the i5 doesn't destroy the aMD nor does the AMD destroy the i5, please be reasonable this poster is looking to make a purchase based on your response. These cpus would be so close in performance it would be barely noticeable, the 8320 is just slightly more powerful for multi-threaded apps.

 

[CooLWoLF]

People on here should really just stop feeding the fanboy trolls on both sides (AMD and Intel). 95% of the threads on Tom's end up turning into flame wars, and no one ever gets a real answer. There is no real discussion anymore and its sad.

As I said before, simply buy the best you can afford. An 8320/8350 will serve you just fine. Likewise, the i5 3470, 3570, etc. will as well. I am using an 8350 and it works great. I play games (at smooth, ultra graphics) and use apps that require lots of threads. I have no complaints on either side. Why did I buy an 8350? It allowed me to spend a little more of my money elsewhere on my rig. Would I have bought an i5/i7? Absolutely if my budget comfortably allowed it.

 

[8350rocks]

You said photoshop. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/5 3470 destros the fx8350. 42% is a lot of gain as the i5 3470 beats the fx8350 if calculated correctly. Lets not forget taking half the power consumption. Anyway 3470 will win on most real world tasks compared to amd, gaming its not really a contest as i5 will destroy amd on that.

Then why does Tom's hardware say the FX8350 > i5-3470 in Photoshop?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-9.html

Tom's has it rated better again in video editing as well...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

Why do you hunt for fanboy websites that show biased results in intel's favor? Use Tom's benchmarks...they're typically closest to real world results. Everytime you post something, the link is to a website no one's ever heard of...why?

@RedDave: The FX8320 will be comparable to anything you can pick in the i5 intel family. Performance will be very similar, and for the price of the FX8320, any i5 you choose would be considerably more. If you have a budget in mind, the FX8320 makes it easier to fit more higher quality parts in your build and stay at the same price point...(especially a GPU, that's the best money spent for gaming/rendering)

 

[inzone]

RedDave I can understand you wanting to get the best bang for your buck but posting a thread with AMD vs Intel in this forum will always digress into a flame war between the AMD and Intel fanboys and you will not get your answer.

Your best option is to do the research yourself and look up benchmarks with the processors you have in mind.

Hafijur , Chrisafp07 and 8350rocks unless your posts start to address the OP and answer HIS questions action will be taken.

 

[hasteone]

which is better for gaming and multitasking.
I might also use photoshop and after effects.

The I5 is better for gaming in the most games, FX-8320 is better but not much better in few games, these who support good HT.

For photoshop and streaming and such, the FX-8320 is a winner due to using its HT.

Its hard to know if the games will support HT in the future but if they do, FX-8320 will be a good gaming CPU in the new games aswell.

I'm right now using a FX-4100@ 4,7 ghz. I'ma upgrade to I5 because I aint sure FX-8320 will do me good in the games I'm gonna play, since all of them dont support HT. My decision is to go with an I5-3450 and a cheap B75 1155 mobo, and then go with i7 3770 in about a year if the games will support HT. I'm done with AMD.

Anyways, FX-8320 is ok for gaming but personally I'd choose intel, since I've seen some tests in games which dont support HT, FX-8320 vs I5-3570K, FX-8320 Appears to be much better for streaming, but I5-3570k beat it in gaming, definitely in these non-HT supported games.

I hope you find your solution!

If you're gonna photoshop FX-8320 may be the choice, but remember, for gaming the intel appears to be better unless you wanna stream when gaming.

I'm not a fanboy, and want no arguement, this is just some info I found on the internet, also checked benchmarks and I5-3570K beats FX-8320 in most games and an I5-3470 even 3450 would beat it in most games too.

 

[pangolin_user]

You said photoshop. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/5 3470 destros the fx8350. 42% is a lot of gain as the i5 3470 beats the fx8350 if calculated correctly. Lets not forget taking half the power consumption. Anyway 3470 will win on most real world tasks compared to amd, gaming its not really a contest as i5 will destroy amd on that.

Then why does Tom's hardware say the FX8350 > i5-3470 in Photoshop?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-9.html

Tom's has it rated better again in video editing as well...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-10.html

Why do you hunt for fanboy websites that show biased results in intel's favor? Use Tom's benchmarks...they're typically closest to real world results. Everytime you post something, the link is to a website no one's ever heard of...why?

Actually thats site use very "Future Proof" benchmark suite :

after effect CS 4 released on October 15, 2008 (newest release CS6)
photoshop CS 5 (why not CS4 like after effect?)
Virtual Dub 1.9.5 released August 22, 2009 (newest Release 1.9.11).
very strange PC mark 7 1.0.4 result i5 3470 120 % faster then i5 2500k in computation score 70 % in creativity score
strange winzip result, thats difference than any other site

so this cherry picking benchmark just show us how "Future Proof" intel i5 is.