AMD FX 8320 Will Bottleneck One GTX 970 ?

[blithe]

AMD FX 8320 4.1 OC Will Bottleneck One GTX 970 ?

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ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0 | AMD FX X8 8320 @ 4.1 GHZ OC - Cooler Master HYPER LGA | GSKILL 8gb (2X4GB) RipjawsX DDR3 1600 | Evga GTX 970 SuperClock ACX 2.0 | Corsair 120 GB SSD | Seagate 3.5" 1TB Barracuda | Cooler Master G750M 80Plus 750w | Zalman Z3 Plus MidT ATX

 

[AHBman]

Hello

In some monothreaded games yes (Arma 3/Total War/Old games .... )
With others multithreaded games which use more than 4 cores no (Crysis 3/Watch Dogs/Far cry 4/AC Unity/BF4 and most coming games .... )

Look Here :
http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

 

[TopLuca]

Simple Answer is no.

It might not perform as good as coupled with the intel's counterparts in some games but I wouldn't consider that a major issue.

 

[blithe]

Hello

In some monothreaded games yes (Arma 3/Total War/Old games .... )
With others multithreaded games which use more than 4 cores no (Crysis 3/Watch Dogs/Far cry 4/AC Unity/BF4 and most coming games .... )

Look Here :
http://www.hardware.fr/focus/101/perfs-avec-2-4-6-8-coeurs-4-jeux-loupe.html

I don't know French

 

[blithe]

Simple Answer is no.

It might not perform as good as coupled with the intel's counterparts in some games but I wouldn't consider that a major issue.

How can I know if my cpu bottleneck gpu ? With gpu usage or what ?

 

[AHBman]

I don't know French

You don't need to know french, look at the benchs only

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[Undying89]

970 should be in 10k range (firestrike), there is some bottleneck but like TopLuca said, it will not be an issue.

 

[TopLuca]

Simple Answer is no.

It might not perform as good as coupled with the intel's counterparts in some games but I wouldn't consider that a major issue.

How can I know if my cpu bottleneck gpu ? With gpu usage or what ?

If the CPU Usage is at 100% and the GPU usage is less than 80% then generally there's a bottleneck.

The Percentage of the bottleneck is generally known by the GPU Usage compared to the CPu's , hypothetically let's say the CPU usage is at 100% and the GPU usage is at 20% then the GPU could theoretically perform about 4-5x better and so on ( that doesn't mean that you'll get 5x FPS though ).

This is only for understanding but generally there's more to it than that. So Check your GPU usage compared to the CPU's and report back

I am pretty sure the bottleneck won't be an issue , every build has its bottlenecks as nothing is perfect.

 

[ifreestylin]

Yes it will bottleneck

ACU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK1MLmsV-Rg

BF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvGr6Hu8n3c

Far Cry 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjsFyR08AI

Crysis 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEkEFC734ho

GTX 780's are used in these video's and a GTX 970 is a bit faster

 

[blithe]

Yes it will bottleneck

ACU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK1MLmsV-Rg

BF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvGr6Hu8n3c

Far Cry 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjsFyR08AI

Crysis 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEkEFC734ho

GTX 780's are used in these video's and a GTX 970 is a bit faster

As I know, 8350's fps below i7 is doesn't mean bottleneck. Am I right ?

 

[AHBman]

All high-end GPUs are bottlenecked by all CPUs, the i7 4790K is just one of the CPUs which causes less bottlenecks, on some games, due to his very strong singlethreaded power, and his factory OC (4.0 Ghz, and 4.4 Ghz on top videos 😀)

But don't worry, for his price, the FX is good, am not sure that taking an i3 4340 at the same price with FX allows you to match the i7 4790K, even the OC'eed FX himself

 

[ifreestylin]

Yes it will bottleneck

ACU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK1MLmsV-Rg

BF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvGr6Hu8n3c

Far Cry 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjsFyR08AI

Crysis 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEkEFC734ho

GTX 780's are used in these video's and a GTX 970 is a bit faster

As I know, 8350's fps below i7 is doesn't mean bottleneck. Am I right ?

It is bottleneck. I'm not saying an i7' is magical and wouldn't bottleneck any GPU, just saying with that GPU the FX 8350 will bottleneck a lot more than a i7 would.

 

[ifreestylin]

All high-end GPUs are bottlenecked by all CPUs, the i7 4790K is just one of the CPUs which causes less bottlenecks, on some games, due to his very strong singlethreaded power, and his factory OC (4.0 Ghz, and 4.4 Ghz on top videos 😀)

But don't worry, for his price, the FX is good, am not sure that taking an i3 4340 at the same price with FX allows you to match the i7 4790K, even the OC'eed FX himself

Your right but that battlefield chart is sinlge player where CPU wont matter much but when it comes to 64 players multiplayer its a whole other story

 

[TopLuca]

Comparing an i7 with a 8320 is rather silly , one sells for $130 and the other sells for around 170 Bucks More . That's not fair.

A Direct comparison should be with the i5-4460 or the i5-4440 .

And as you can see from the chart the i5-4670K only leads with 3.9 FPS.

 

[blithe]

So what is short answer then ?

 

[AHBman]

I didn't found multiplayer CPU bench for BF4 yet :/

 

[TopLuca]

Like I've said before , the bottleneck is slight and not a major issue

Go ahead and enjoy your rig

 

[TopLuca]

Comparing an i7 with a 8320 is rather silly , one sells for $130 and the other sells for around 170 Bucks More . That's not fair.

A Direct comparison should be with the i5-4460 or the i5-4440 .

And as you can see from the chart the i5-4670K only leads with 3.9 FPS.

Then don't compare it it. just look at how shit the frame rates on the FX chip are in FC4 it's going down to 20s and 30s consistently. That's absolutely garbage for a so called high end CPU.

It's not because of the CPU , it's because of the optimization .

Just take a look at the frame variance of any AMD Card , even the 290X has huge frame variance , the experience isn't smooth on it.

The game is not designed for AMD based systems also you can't judge a product based on one review.

Here have a look , the intel counterparts lead by 10 FPS although the game makes usage of Multicores

 

[TopLuca]

The FX line generally is fine for only one high end card before you start noticing bottlenecks .

Here have a look at the 8370-E Reviews .

Main stream cards :

As you can see for mainstream cards the FX line doesn't seem to bottleneck , even though the intel counterparts perform better however the difference is very minimal.

Jump up to the very extreme high end cards ( ex.R9 295-X2 ) Then you start noticing bottlenecking.

Hope that cleared up the skies .

 

[TopLuca]

Comparing an i7 with a 8320 is rather silly , one sells for $130 and the other sells for around 170 Bucks More . That's not fair.

A Direct comparison should be with the i5-4460 or the i5-4440 .

And as you can see from the chart the i5-4670K only leads with 3.9 FPS.

Then don't compare it it. just look at how shit the frame rates on the FX chip are in FC4 it's going down to 20s and 30s consistently. That's absolutely garbage for a so called high end CPU.

It's not because of the CPU , it's because of the optimization .

Just take a look at the frame variance of any AMD Card , even the 290X has huge frame variance , the experience isn't smooth on it.

The game is not designed for AMD based systems also you can't judge a product based on one review.

You sound like my friend whom bought a crappy lock clock and locked 2.8Ghz Phenom II x6 and GTX 680. He complains that his rig lags and i tell him it's his CPU and he denies reality cause in his mind a slow and old 6 core CPU, 8GB Ram, GTX 680 should max out any game.

Myself I have an intel i7-4790K and the situation is different , the 8320 is no phenom.

The 8320 is a very solid CPU for little , just compare it with the right product.

 

[AHBman]

You have an FX 8320 ?

 

[TopLuca]

The FX line generally is fine for only one high end card before you start noticing bottlenecks .
Hope that cleared up the skies .

The problem is that you guy's don't consider the terrible erratic frame rate drops and low MINIMUM framerates that the AMD CPUs create.

Don't be a fanboy , all of my rigs run intel yet I am defending AMD.

Prove your words sir , where are the low minimum frame rates ?

 

[TopLuca]

Per core performance isn't everything , if you think that's the case then the intel i5-4460 beats the more expensive Xeon E5-2697 v2 .

Every CPU is unique , so are apps , some are single threaded and other are multithreaded.

 

[TopLuca]

The FX line generally is fine for only one high end card before you start noticing bottlenecks .
Hope that cleared up the skies .

The problem is that you guy's don't consider the terrible erratic frame rate drops and low MINIMUM framerates that the AMD CPUs create.

Don't be a fanboy , all of my rigs run intel yet I am defending AMD.

Prove your words sir , where are the low minimum frame rates ?

I don't need to prove reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_532115327&feature=iv&list=UUE1jciHeP-TxJrUtXX1IjAg&src_vid=PK1MLmsV-Rg&v=yjjsFyR08AI

Again comparing David Vs Golaith , The intel counterpart for AMD's FX 8350 is the i5-3570K not the i7-4790K which costs almost twice as much.

 

[AHBman]

In 2015, single threaded performances not become a problem, most apps are optimized for multicore, only some tasks still singlethreaded (Audio encoding, CAO and some games .... )

Please stop debate, each side have solids arguments : singlecore performance and efficiency with Intel, general performace and price with AMD