AMD FX 9590 Upgrade questions

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warrenwaddell

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So i recently purchased an AMD FX 9590, i am currently running:

AMD FX 8300 8-core
(planning on switching for 9590)
AMD FXA 990 mobo
Corsair 820m PSU (bronze)
16GB crucial RAM
2(SLI) MSI GTX 660 Twin frozr,
(have a R9 390 Nitro 8GB in the mail)
250 GB SSD and 1TB HDD

so to narrow down my question to a more specific subject, i want to know if it would be more cost effective to keep my FX9590 and buy a new power supply and liquid cooling for the CPU, or to sell my 5Ghz CPU and buy a cheaper CPU that i can throw a fan on and hope to reach maximum performance. I know how hot my my main goal is to be able to play fallout 4 on Ultra. i know the graphics card alone will probably give me that resolution, but i feel like the CPU i have now is just too slow and if i leave it on over night, it pretty much grinds to a hault. (could be caused by a few problems.) I build computers fairly often and am always looking to further my knowledge in build compatibility. So any advice is welcome and appreciated.
 
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Andrei-Florin Gogan
There will not be a night and day difference between your 8300 and the 9590 in terms or performance. In terms of heat there will be without a doubt. You can even look at the 8370. It is clocked at 4.0GHz and with your motherboard you can easily OC to 4.5 GHZ with air cooling. When it comes to single core performance, you will see little to no difference between them. So at the end of the day, it's either you stay with your current CPU and OC as much as possible or splash out the cash and go to " team blue ".
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You could just OC your processor to get the same results as a 9590, extremely wasteful.
If you actually want to improve performance, make the switch to skylake and lose the SLI setup for a modern single card. While they may have performed well previously, they arent anymore.
 
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A very robust overclock of the 8350, if the chip will go that far, is the most efficient choice. I would never recommend the FX9590. Read about the problems encountered with that chip and gaming stability.

If an overclocked FX8350 is still to slow, then you have no choice but to change CPU and motherboard. Intel is the only better choice now. When the new AMD Zen CPUs appear, you may have better choices.
 
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well my GPU is like a 3.4 Ghz max and ive had it for a few years now so im a little hesitant to want to overclock it. But the CPU itself doesnt even meet the minimum requirements to play fallout 4. so no matter what, id like to graduate from the 8300.
 
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I dont think youve done enough research into the 9xxx series then.
The 9590 is the exact same processor as the 8320 (8350), just factory OCed. Age wont impact your ability to OC.
I dont see why the 8350 isnt running Fo4 for you, I run it on a 7 year old Phenom II.
 
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It is an FX-8300 and if you check the minimum game requirements for it, it doesnt meet it. even though my graphics setup isnt the best yet, my processor seams to be slowing down and seizing, (hence why i mentioned it could be from a few problems) or it could be my old hard drive is crapping out slowly. but if the 9590 if the OCd version of the 8320, would there be an in between card that would offer me a performance increase that wouldnt be as noticable of a difference from the 9590? cause from my 8300-9590. thats going to be night and day. but if there is something that is much faster than the one i have now to still make a night and day difference, that i dont have to spend an additional $400 in cooling and power. i would like to explore that avenue before keeping this chip and dropping that kind of money into it. all said and done this chip will have costed me around 600$ to utilize.
 
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There will not be a night and day difference between your 8300 and the 9590 in terms or performance. In terms of heat there will be without a doubt. You can even look at the 8370. It is clocked at 4.0GHz and with your motherboard you can easily OC to 4.5 GHZ with air cooling. When it comes to single core performance, you will see little to no difference between them. So at the end of the day, it's either you stay with your current CPU and OC as much as possible or splash out the cash and go to " team blue ".
 
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So i think a few people are confusing my 8300 with an 8350. Thank you guys though for the advice on just overclocking the one i have now, I personally havent done any overclocking of anything besides GPUs and im not sure how much i can overclock my 8300. but also for the minimum game requirements this stock CPU meets the requirements but i used the http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/ can you run it scan, and it said my CPU can run it but its less than optimal. So it doesnt want to ever play Fo4 on anything over medium. My CPU says 3.3 clock and 4 max. but i read an article of a guy who tested and overclocked this thing to 4.6Ghz with full stability. i dont have a liquid cooling system like he did though. so would my best bet be to sell this FX 9590 and just buy a liquid cooling setup and overclock the dogshit out of the 8300 i currently have? and if so is there any specific cooling or overclocking tips anyone can give me? I really wanted to run this BEAST of a chip (FX 9590) but it seams everyone is against it besides the guys who have a stupid amount of play money and can afford almost 1 Grand in modifications to accommodate this CPU
 
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The 8300, 8320, 8350, 8370, and 9590 are all made from the same silicon die. Your 8300 will likely not overclock as well as an 8320 or higher chip would, but you can still get a good overclock. It's a fairly cheap option. You go not need to spend vast sums on cooling. Dropping 100MHz from maximum will likely reduce your temperatures enough to get by with a sub $100 cooler.

The four modules of the AMD chip are much less efficient than Intel's, so the per-core throughput is a lot less at the same clock speed and their chips are less tolerant of high temperatures.

The 9590 is almost a marketing joke.
 
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Nowadays, most AMD CPUs are simply not suited for high-tier gaming. That's why we tend to recommend Intel CPUs.

The 8xxx CPUs are all made from the same die, and the 9xxx series CPUs are all just really highly clocked 8xxx CPUs. Don't bother. Just OC your 8300 a bit. If you still don't like the performance, your only option is to go to Intel.
 
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wow the last few answers you guys gave to me were insanely helpfull i wish i could pick more than one best answer! thank you guys for the lesson. this is exactly what i was hoping to find out! you guys are great! and i appreciate the help. im going to sell my Mini volcano and buy a 8370 and OC this as far as i can on air cooling. you guys saved me hundred of dollars. i really dont feel like spending an arm and leg to go "Team Blue" XD hahaha but this is great. thanks again guys!
 
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