AMD FX series or Intel i5 below -$480

[Gogeto_16]

Hi guys,I have a core 2 quad q9550 2.83GHz,6GB RAM,Windows 8.1 pro,So just want to buy new pc in the budget of below -$480 so suggests me guys should I buy i5 or AMD FX-series If I should AMD FX then which one is cheaper and good for today games or If I should buy i5 so which one is cheaper and good for today games I'm thinking of DDR4 8GB RAM,nivida geforce gtx 1050 ti or in AMD im thinking of 16GB DDR3 and AMD RX 460 (4GB) which one is cheap suggest me a good mother board with two PCI slots but a cheap one 480$ is my limit.

 

[The Paladin]

here is my suggestion, with SSD, and RX 480


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4500 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($72.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($43.74 @ B&H)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($190.66 @ Jet)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $505.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 11:37 EST-0500

 

[Gogeto_16]

here is my suggestion, with SSD, and RX 480


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4500 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($72.65 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($43.74 @ B&H)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($190.66 @ Jet)
Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $505.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 11:37 EST-0500

Hey,good model but sorry I only need a core i5 because after it i'll not buy any pc for next 3 or 4 years

 

[Gogeto_16]

yeah bro I'm also waiting for that If it will be expensive or out of my budget then i'll buy other i5 and I know the prices will decrease a little bit didn't it? and then i'll buy them

Not necessarily - except when Intel sells a lemon and AMD sells a powerhouse (which hasn't happened since the Pentium D vs. Athlon64 X2 days), Intel will merely sell cut-down versions of existing stuff and not touch their mainstream prices. The Pentium G 4560 is in essence an i3 7300T with AVX2 disabled and a bit less L3 cache.

And guys one more thing should I buy online or from local malls or big shop ?

Online may allow you to get the best price on each component, provided you don't forget to take shipping costs into account. Personally, I usually mix'n'match - some components I'll buy from big stores, some I'll get at holes in the wall, and some others I'll get from this or that online retailer. As I live in France though, I can't recommend a distributor brand.

yeah I get it but can I buy some used parts and some new also,if yes then tell me which parts should I buy new and which one should I buy in used???

 

[TJ Hooker]

here is my suggestion, with SSD, and RX 480
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4500 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($72.65 @ OutletPC)

That Pentium is a dual core without hyperthreading. The G4560 only costs a bit more and is a much better buy.

yeah I get it but can I buy some used parts and some new also,if yes then tell me which parts should I buy new and which one should I buy in used???

Well that obviously depends on what parts you can find used, and for what price.

 

[Gogeto_16]

here is my suggestion, with SSD, and RX 480
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4500 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($72.65 @ OutletPC)

That Pentium is a dual core without hyperthreading. The G4560 only costs a bit more and is a much better buy.

yeah I get it but can I buy some used parts and some new also,if yes then tell me which parts should I buy new and which one should I buy in used???

Well that obviously depends on what parts you can find used, and for what price.

ummmmm bro ok I understand but I recently change the mother board of my quad core but still I want a new quad core pc not a dual core and please can you suggest me which parts should I buy in used can you?

 

[TJ Hooker]

please can you suggest me which parts should I buy in used can you?

We don't know where you live, what used parts you can find, or what prices are like for you. And even if we did know all that, it will all change by the time you want to buy in July anyway. It's impossible to say what you would be better off buying used.

Or are you asking what types of components in general can be bought used? Well, any really. Number one would probably be GPUs. Just need to make sure you trust the seller not to sell you a faulty component.

 

[Gogeto_16]

please can you suggest me which parts should I buy in used can you?

We don't know where you live, what used parts you can find, or what prices are like for you. And even if we did know all that, it will all change by the time you want to buy in July anyway. It's impossible to say what you would be better off buying used.

Or are you asking what types of components in general can be bought used? Well, any really. Number one would probably be GPUs. Just need to make sure you trust the seller not to sell you a faulty component.

yeah that's right it should be overclocked or not and If I buy nvidia geforce gtx 1050 mini in used then what will be the price in your sense????And by the way I live in Pakistan

 

[TJ Hooker]

I guess it's better to get a card that hasn't been overclocked, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. As far as price, it's kind of up to you. How much is it worth to you to give up the peace of mind that comes with getting a new card that you can return if there are any issues? For me I look for at least 10% cheaper than you can find it new, more if the component has been used for a while. You'll also save tax and sometimes shipping by buying used.

 

[Gogeto_16]

I guess it's better to get a card that hasn't been overclocked, but I wouldn't worry about it too much. As far as price, it's kind of up to you. How much is it worth to you to give up the peace of mind that comes with getting a new card that you can return if there are any issues? For me I look for at least 10% cheaper than you can find it new, more if the component has been used for a while. You'll also save tax and sometimes shipping by buying used.

yeah right there are shipping but what If I buy a GeForce GTX 1050 Mini used which is not overclocked before from Local mall?

 

[TJ Hooker]

Do you mean you can buy used parts from a store in your mall? Like not refurbished/open box, but just used? Hmm, when I think used I think of buying it off a local buy/sell site from an individual, or maybe from Ebay.

Well, in that case, does the store offer any kind of warranty or support? Are you able to return it if there's an issue?

 

[mitch074]

I don't think a used 1050Ti will be easy to find - those are bargains as far as power to price ratio goes. As for "real" quad cores, if you're not doing video or heavy math stuff, an hyperthreaded dual core does the job very well for a much lower price; if you do though, then I understand - and your best bet is to wait for Ryzen to become available, as Intel sure as sh*t won't sell a (last-gen) quad core for less than 200 bucks before the end of the year.

 

[The Paladin]

best I can do if you recycle your own case into the equation, and you dont need a 7xxx series quad core to get the same performance as the 6xxx core.

'PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 20:01 EST-0500

 

[Gogeto_16]

Do you mean you can buy used parts from a store in your mall? Like not refurbished/open box, but just used? Hmm, when I think used I think of buying it off a local buy/sell site from an individual, or maybe from Ebay.

Well, in that case, does the store offer any kind of warranty or support? Are you able to return it if there's an issue?

YES seven days warranty

 

[Gogeto_16]

best I can do if you recycle your own case into the equation, and you dont need a 7xxx series quad core to get the same performance as the 6xxx core.

'PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 20:01 EST-0500

I love this one thankx but Last thing that this MOBO is able to use two GPU? and how many RAM slots

 

[Gogeto_16]

best I can do if you recycle your own case into the equation, and you dont need a 7xxx series quad core to get the same performance as the 6xxx core.

'PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 20:01 EST-0500

Ummm bro last thing can you suggest me a cool looking mid-tower which is commonly available and it should be cheap about -$42

 

[mitch074]

best I can do if you recycle your own case into the equation, and you dont need a 7xxx series quad core to get the same performance as the 6xxx core.

'PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 20:01 EST-0500

Ummm bro last thing can you suggest me a cool looking mid-tower which is commonly available and it should be cheap about -$42

You know that anything under the 1070 won't work with SLI; so why are you looking for a dual PCIe slotted mobo? Also, for 42 bucks you won't find a case with a proper power supply; so buy a power supply, and salvage any case you can find in the trash and go wild with paint.

Last, I'd recommend using the Hitachi's 40 bucks to get a small size SSD instead

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  ■ either for your OS partition and recycle a HDD to install the games and stuff like Steam, Origin etc.,
  ■ or set up the SSD as a cache for the hard disk

In either case you'll benefit from much faster boot and app loading.

As for the CPU, if you're dead set on an i5, consider that the one shown above is the cheapest i5 you can find; it's also the lowest clocked one. As such, you may just be bottlenecked by the driver thread in DX11 games due to this chip's low top frequency.

• 
  ■ if you intend to play older DX11 games, the Pentium 4560 and a Geforce 1060 would be your best bet
  ■ if you'd rather play DX12/Vulkan games and use your computer for eavy computational stuff, then your setup should do the trick. Personally, I'd scrounge up a bit more cash and get a 4Gb RX470 instead, but that' just me.

 

[Gogeto_16]

best I can do if you recycle your own case into the equation, and you dont need a 7xxx series quad core to get the same performance as the 6xxx core.

'PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($51.98 @ Directron)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-14 20:01 EST-0500

Ummm bro last thing can you suggest me a cool looking mid-tower which is commonly available and it should be cheap about -$42

You know that anything under the 1070 won't work with SLI; so why are you looking for a dual PCIe slotted mobo? Also, for 42 bucks you won't find a case with a proper power supply; so buy a power supply, and salvage any case you can find in the trash and go wild with paint.

Last, I'd recommend using the Hitachi's 40 bucks to get a small size SSD instead

• 
  ■ either for your OS partition and recycle a HDD to install the games and stuff like Steam, Origin etc.,
  ■ or set up the SSD as a cache for the hard disk

In either case you'll benefit from much faster boot and app loading.

As for the CPU, if you're dead set on an i5, consider that the one shown above is the cheapest i5 you can find; it's also the lowest clocked one. As such, you may just be bottlenecked by the driver thread in DX11 games due to this chip's low top frequency.

• 
  ■ if you intend to play older DX11 games, the Pentium 4560 and a Geforce 1060 would be your best bet
  ■ if you'd rather play DX12/Vulkan games and use your computer for eavy computational stuff, then your setup should do the trick. Personally, I'd scrounge up a bit more cash and get a 4Gb RX470 instead, but that' just me.

ok bro I understand this was very helpful for me but last thing you are saying that i5-6500 will bottle neck???? so I should buy 7400 or 6500 and i'm okay with 1 slot mobo but tell me a mobo with 4 slots of RAM and 1 slot of GPU and I can only buy rx 460 will it be enough this was the last question please after i'm done with it

 

[mitch074]

ok bro I understand this was very helpful for me but last thing you are saying that i5-6500 will bottle neck???? so I should buy 7400 or 6500 and i'm okay with 1 slot mobo but tell me a mobo with 4 slots of RAM and 1 slot of GPU and I can only buy rx 460 will it be enough this was the last question please after i'm done with it

The problem with DX11 games is that the GPU's driver has much more work to do (compared with DX12 or Vulkan), and most of that work is done on a single thread - so it's very dependent on the CPU's single core performance. As this specific i5 is clocked quite low, your system may actually be CPU bottlenecked. Now, it may mean that a specific game cannot go past 45 fps at max settings while the GPU is idling and 3/4th of your CPU cores underused, or you may just not notice it because your GPU can't handle more than that anyway. It's a bottleneck, but not a HUGE one.

The RX460 is a very low performing card; it's geared towards e-sports (strategy, etc.) and occasional gaming; there's NO WAY you'd be CPU-bottlenecked with it. The 1050Ti is currently at the sweet spot for entry level gaming, so go for it. If you want to stay on budget, either get the Pentium to prevent driver bottlenecking on DX11 games at the cost of less raw horsepower on other apps but more budget for the rest of the system (to get a 256 Gb SSD, for example, or a RX470, which does kick ass on newer games), or go with the i5 for better smoothness at the cost of no crazy high fps.

AS for the mobo, the MSI B150M Pro-VDH will cost ten bucks more but comes with 4 DDR4 slots.

 

[Gogeto_16]

ok bro I understand this was very helpful for me but last thing you are saying that i5-6500 will bottle neck???? so I should buy 7400 or 6500 and i'm okay with 1 slot mobo but tell me a mobo with 4 slots of RAM and 1 slot of GPU and I can only buy rx 460 will it be enough this was the last question please after i'm done with it

The problem with DX11 games is that the GPU's driver has much more work to do (compared with DX12 or Vulkan), and most of that work is done on a single thread - so it's very dependent on the CPU's single core performance. As this specific i5 is clocked quite low, your system may actually be CPU bottlenecked. Now, it may mean that a specific game cannot go past 45 fps at max settings while the GPU is idling and 3/4th of your CPU cores underused, or you may just not notice it because your GPU can't handle more than that anyway. It's a bottleneck, but not a HUGE one.

The RX460 is a very low performing card; it's geared towards e-sports (strategy, etc.) and occasional gaming; there's NO WAY you'd be CPU-bottlenecked with it. The 1050Ti is currently at the sweet spot for entry level gaming, so go for it. If you want to stay on budget, either get the Pentium to prevent driver bottlenecking on DX11 games at the cost of less raw horsepower on other apps but more budget for the rest of the system (to get a 256 Gb SSD, for example, or a RX470, which does kick ass on newer games), or go with the i5 for better smoothness at the cost of no crazy high fps.

AS for the mobo, the MSI B150M Pro-VDH will cost ten bucks more but comes with 4 DDR4 slots.

yeah I understand now i'll definitely buy rx 460 thankx for all this information