AMD FX8350 Inaccurate temps [Solved]

-Speed fan is giving you motherboard temp, as is easy tune... both of them are poling that temp from the motherboard socket
-coretemp, aida64, and hwmonitor are all giving you a temp of 13-15C on the cpu.

I should make a guide on piledriver temps since it seems i write this once a week. Piledriver like every cpu amd has made since the phenomII does not have an actual thermometer on it's cpu. It uses a mathematical algorithm to "estimate" it's core temps. I don't know how it does it, i just know it doesn't work well on say... 2/3 of the chips.

Each series of AMD cpus has it's own quirks with it's temp monitoring, but you can make some generalization about them...

PhII - typically would give you the right core temp + or - 5-20C... you just had to figure out what your cpu's actual temp was (it ran about 5C hotter then the socket) and you would know what temp your PhII was at all times. My old PhII reported it's temps about 5C cooler then it actually was for example.

Bulldozer - the temp monitoring never really worked on bulldozer, most chips wouldn't even give you a temp~

Piledriver - Piledriver has 4 types of chips...
1) works as it should. you see this more on the Richland apu lineup then you do in the fx lineup.
2) reports an accurate temp above a certain temp point, and an inaccurate one bellow it (for example, my fx8320 reports a solid cpu temp over 32C, but under it reports 12C or so as the core temp, it looks like yours might be similar),
3) the next type is the opposite, it reports a good temp under a certain temp, and a silly temp over it (usually something like 155C or 255C, something insane that can't possibly be right),
4) and the last one simply doesn't work at all.

Now you can verify how accurate your core temp is by checking out the socket temp on the motherboard. When piledriver reports it's temps right, the core temp should be reporting just about 10C colder then the motherboard socket temp. Because if this people have come to call the piledriver core temp the "surface temp"... it's believed it's representative of the temp on the top of the heatspreader. While the actual core temp is unknown, it's believed to be much closer to the motherboard socket temp.

Understand that richland apus tend to report a solid core temp figure you can probably trust as moderately accurate as we'd assume a core temp to mean. I don't know about kaveri yet, AMD priced those chips out of the market so no one seems to have one to report, but i've not seen anything to indicate they don't report their core temps accurately either.
 

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I uninstalled amd overdrive because it showed me 50ºC+ always
 

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But mine one can be possible to be 14-17ºC? I mean because the airflow, i have always the fans at 2350rpm and i have shorter tubes than the default ones in my liquid cooling system.

Thanks!
 


Try the newest version, the thermal margin is the only accurate way of measuring temps on these CPUs.
 
~to answer your basic question... your cpu is not reporting an accurate temp... so to pick and chose which program is most accurate is a little hard. the easiest way to tell is get some load on the cpu, so the temps get back into the realm of believably, and of the 3 programs actually reporting a core temp, figure out which one gives you a temp -10C cooler then the socket temp on that motherboard. It looks like all 3 do... i actually use coretemp on my computer... i also have hwmonitor... as well as asus's thermal radar program... they all concur close enough i don't really care which one i'm looking at.
 

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I installed the new one, i get a margin of 51-54ºC but isn't 61ºC the max temp of my cpu?
 


PHII max was 62... piledriver it 67C on the cpu and 72C on the socket. of course that means a piledriver will end up being throttled by the motherboard before it hits 65C... as the socket is typically 10C hotter then the cpu temps.

I've turned off the temp throttling on my FX8320 when i was stability testing... turns out it can run quiet a bit hotter then 67C without temp crashing like the phenomII used to do. Ended up stopping the stability test when the cpu got to 72C... mostly cause i got nervous... i was trying to stabilize a 5.1ghz overclock. ended up giving up as impossible on my current cpu cooler (that said it didn't fail the stability test... just got too hot and i chickened out) .
 


14C = 57F unless you're wearing a jacket right now it's highly unlikely your room is 57F... cpu coolers, no matter how powerful can't cool your cpu lower then room temp.




AS for the stressing info... looks like your socket temp is peaking at 50-51C, and the cpu temp is peaking at 40C on all the temp monitors... i'd say they all are reporting it accurately at the moment.
 

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Ok, then the temperatures under stress test are accurate? I wanted to know this because i wanted to do some overclock.

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remeber whe you overclock you'll see higher temps then you will in the real world like with my ste up fx8320 at 4.9ghz i hit around 53c in stressing but i never reach 45c while gaming or anything. it stresses your cpu to the max so if you hit 65c, 67c while stressing done worry cause your not going to hits those temps with everyday usage
 


they look fine to me. they're exactly 10C less then the socket temp... which means over a certain temp your cpu is reporting it's temps right.. Just like how my fx8320 behaves.

As for overclocking on the stock cpu cooler? i wouldn't advise it...
 

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Yup, i have push & pull with 4 crosshair high preasure, i take the air from the outside the case and the environment temperature is around 30ºC.