AMD HD 7770 vs. World of Warcraft

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the Tom's Hardware community: where nearly two million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Status
Not open for further replies.
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690
Hi, :hello:

First let me say the Sapphire HD 7770 is running perfectly right out of the box. Yet it does not do as well in my game World of Warcraft compared to my 3 year old nVidia 9800GT I was getting 75FPS compared to only 60FPS that I get now with the HD7770.

Maybe it’s a VC setting that I have over looked???

I did 4 tests…#1 at Default for both the CPU & VC…#2 I OC’d the VC…#3 I open all 4 cores on the CPU + OC'd VC, note the drop in the score. Test #4 I OC’d the CPU from 3.1 to 3.3ghz + 4 cores + VC OC'd & got my best score.

3DMark11 4 Test results: P = Score OC’d = Overclocked

1) P2773: CPU 3.1ghz 2 Cores, VC 1000 core/1125 memory, These settings are all @ Default
2) P3023: CPU 3.1ghz 2 Cores, OC’d VC 1150 core/1250memory
3) P2896: CPU 3.1ghz 4 Cores & OC’d VC 1150 core/1250memory
4) P3515: OC’d CPU 3.3ghz 4 Cores OC’d VC 1150 core/1250memory

After test #4...I tested my Game World of Warcraft...No Change with my graphics set on GOOD, I'm getting 15 to 25fps in Town. In the Field 60fps +/-

Futuremark average scores:
AMD Radeon HD 7770 P3290* [$160]
AMD Radeon HD 7850 P5540 [$260]
AMD Radeon HD 7870 P6790 [$360]

*P3290 is -73% less than best 3DMark11 graphics card score (P12300).

My 3 year old Build:

CASE: Antec 900

CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - Retail [I can run all 4 cores]

MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Support AM3 Socket Phenom II DDR3 CPU Only

Mem: OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-20 240-pin ddr3 dimm w/heat spreader

VC: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI, Retail OC Edition overclocked to 660Mhz

PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" - OEM

DVDROM: Sony Optiarc Black 24X 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM

NIC Card: D-Link DGE-530T 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI Gigabit Desktop Adapter 1 x RJ45

Router: D-Link DIR-655 802.11b/g/n Xtreme N Gigabit Wireless Broadband Router up to 300Mbps/ USB port x1/ Intelligent QoS Technology for Gaming

MONITOR: Samsung 22" w/TV tuner

OS: Windows 7 Premium 64bit
Click to expand...
 
Solution
M

Yup I would even go with this one it is $20 cheaper and the same card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130664 but both are same MIR price. The Ti stands for...
Sort by date Sort by votes
ttg_Avenged

ttg_Avenged

Distinguished
Feb 23, 2012
545
0
19,010
I have a GTX 560 Ti 2GB at the moment, EVGA brand, I can and do play BF3 @ 40-35FPS at absolute ultra settings. No offense, but WoW is NOT! graphics intensive at the least amount, thus this card will serve you amazingly, and has great cooling/overclockability. :)
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810

You would be surprised about how much hardware WoW takes to run full time @ 60fps min it's no longer like back in the day of Vanilla WoW were an 8400GS could max it out. Even my GTX 275 kinda struggles in Stormwind with mid 40s fps when there are many Players on the screen at once like by the AH and Bank and I even have to turn down shadows from Ultra to high otherwise it goes to around 30fps.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690

Hi, :hello:

Very good point, that might cost me $24 for a restock fee because the VC does work perfectly. My fear is that Diablo3 might not do as well as WoW.

7 years ago when I did my first build I did a RMA with Newegg, I called them to explain & they did not charge me, I also ordered the new item @ the higher price.

May I exchange my RMA'd item for a different product?

No. Unfortunately, we do not exchange RMA items for different items. We will only replace an RMA'd item with a an identical replacement item of the same make and model.

If the return policy period for a refund has not yet expired, you can request an RMA Refund, order a new item, and we'll refund your original purchase after we receive your returned product.

Any return for a refund may be subject to a 15% restocking fee. This fee may be waived for the following reasons:
•Carrier damage
•Defective product
•Product does not match advertising
•Received incorrect product
•Product was an extra item not ordered
Note: Any return that is misrepresented as being for any of the above reasons will automatically have the restocking fee applied even if it was initially waived.
Click to expand...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810
Keep us updated on how you make out with the RMA and when you get your new card how it works out. All the best .
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
ohyouknow

ohyouknow

Distinguished
Nov 18, 2011
957
0
19,160
Well according to newegg it has the standard vga return policy so you should be fine. Is the card still within 30 days and do you fit the other standard return policy criteria?

It will most likely be a return>refund>buy new card which will net you a loss of some money and a long turn around from initial return to getting a new card. Inconvenient but I believe it would be worth it.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690
Hi, :hello:

Thank you All for your help & advice. I'm in a state of, of, of...What to do, a RMA for a return an eat the loss [$24] seems like the right thing to do. I weighed all the facts yet I hesitate an I don't know why. Purchase date is 03/27/2012, tick tock. I really like the HD 7770 it works perfectly. :love:

I've made 152 j/k in game adjustments using all the above suggestions, I'm running a steady 60fps +/- in an unpopulated area, 40-60fps in solo battle & 20-40 in Stormwind a town during peak server hours. I will continue to tweak & level up my toon at the same time. I will know for sure by Monday what to do.

Also lets consider this almost 3 year old build, it was a Mid range build, now it's a Low range build that could use a new CPU. I was hoping this build would last 4 years minium but the games are catching up to the hardware. A new VC should add 2-3 years till my next build.

Here is my compare chart @ Newegg for a GTX 560 Ti [Fermi] 1G & 2G wide open to suggestions:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050001315%2040000048&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=%2D1%7C14%2D130%2D683%5E14%2D130%2D683%2DTS%2C14%2D130%2D738%5E14%2D130%2D738%2DTS%2C14%2D127%2D608%5E14%2D127%2D608%2DTS%2C14%2D121%2D425%5E14%2D121%2D425%2DTS%2C14%2D500%2D236%5E14%2D500%2D236%2DTS

This looks extra nice for my current build with alittle future proofing.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738


 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690
My 3 year old Build:

CASE: Antec 900
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE Callisto 3.1GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor - [OC @ 3.3 & running all 4 cores]
MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Support AM3 Socket Phenom II DDR3 CPU Only
Mem: OCZ OCZ3P13334GK 4gb kit (2gb x 2) 1333mhz 7-7-7-20 240-pin ddr3 dimm w/heat spreader
VC: MSI N9800GT-T2D512-OC V2 GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI, Retail OC Edition overclocked to 660Mhz
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" - OEM
DVDROM: Sony Optiarc Black 24X 2MB Cache SATA DVD/CD Rewritable Drive - OEM
NIC Card: D-Link DGE-530T 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI Gigabit Desktop Adapter 1 x RJ45
Router: D-Link DIR-655 802.11b/g/n Xtreme N Gigabit Wireless Broadband Router up to 300Mbps/ USB port x1/ Intelligent QoS Technology for Gaming
MONITOR: Samsung 22" w/TV tuner 1680x1050
OS: Windows 7 Premium 64bit
Click to expand...
Hi, :hello:

I have my RMA from newegg. I will buy a new nVidia VC. Please make all recommendations base on the above Hardware. The EVGA GTX 560 ti looks good since I will be upgrading the CPU in a year. Is there enought gain in having a 2G mem compared to 1G VC for $55 more to play games?

Budget: $200 - $250 +/-

First choice: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $204.00 :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

This is my Compare List at newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%2050001312%20600030348%20600007782&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=48%7C14%2D130%2D604%5E14%2D130%2D604%2DTS%2C14%2D130%2D683%5E14%2D130%2D683%2DTS%2C14%2D127%2D608%5E14%2D127%2D608%2DTS

note: The MSI OC VC is a bit long...but it will fit in my Antec 900 case...I can OC it myself.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810

It seems none of us asked what resolution you are using. 2g of Vram is most certainly a wast of money for 1080P resolution and under because it will never get used in WoW not even close 1gb is more than enough for 1680x1050 22" resolution so save you money. The 560ti is a good card but you could even save a bit more and go down to a GTX 560 non ti model and be just as well.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690

Hi, :hello:

When I researched the GTX 560ti I read the the "ti" ment 2nd generation is this correct? The GTX 560 non :it" will save me $50*...wow Thank you.

First choice, as always open to suggestions. :)

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
***$159.99 after mail-in rebate card & Free shipping !
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130661


Edit: RMA Type: Refund...Restocking Fee: $0 <....Awesome it was worth thephone call. :love:
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810

Yup I would even go with this one it is $20 cheaper and the same card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130664 but both are same MIR price. The Ti stands for Titanium which is an old acronym they used on some of there older card like from 05 as a homage type thing. The GTX 560 non Ti will play WoW maxed out no problems so there really is no need to spend more on the Ti version. Plus EVGA has now changed there policy and is now extending there minimum Warranty across all there products to Three years.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Solution
Jim937

Jim937

Distinguished
Apr 12, 2009
214
0
18,690

Hi, :hello:

Since both VC's are equal I will go with my first choice with Free $hipping.

Thank you MMO I apperciate all your help, as well as everyone else here @ TH. :love:
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810

OP doesn't need a 560ti to max out WoW the GTX 560 non ti will max out WoW at 60fps min without issues plus Galaxy is an off brand and just cant even come close to the quality of EVGA and there Warranty. Ones things for sure is the up front cost is for real rebates are not thats why they are jankey and I don't mess with them.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
striker410

striker410

Distinguished
Mar 10, 2011
3,292
0
21,160

Thanks for your opinion. Galaxy isn't a premium brand but they are just fine. And I said that it had a $20 off promo, did I not?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-gf114,2845-12.html

Really that 7770 should have been running better. Even a GTX 460 could max this game.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
M

MMO Fan

Honorable
Mar 28, 2012
468
0
10,810

This was already gone over but I will again Radeon cards get performance gouged in WoW and all Blizzard games a GTX 460 is a far better option to run WoW than is a Radeon 7770.
WoW.png
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Status
Not open for further replies.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom