AMD Hits Top (Base) GHz with Quad-Core Phenom

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this could also be away to rid themselves of excess supply of now to be old platform of chips. do not be surprised of a few more last minute releases are announced for athlons as well. so this is definitely not a last resort or a sad effort but rather just financial business. and think about this, not everyone is just going to jump @ Bulldozer right away, so why not...?!
 
[citation][nom]ironmb[/nom]AMD has high end APU's? Lol i laughed at this one. AMD is for budget gamers. Bulldozer is a joke, AMD is 3 years behind Intel, and still lacks any benchmarks to prove they can keep up with anything. AMD stick to putting your money into crap laptops.[/citation]
Man your trolling. The technology is clearly defined. Do your research first before belittling such a large company like AMD.
If they wanted to, they could easily create a chip that competes with Intel. And BTW they are.
 
Looking forward to bulldozer, but it's nice to see another Phenom II. Once bulldozer hits markets though, I think the game will change significantly!
 
[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]This is really sad. AMD should just dismantle itself if it can't compete against Sandy Bridge.[/citation]

Yep just like Honda should shut its doors cause it cant compete on speed vs Ferrari...

Moron, you should be happy AMD exist, without them Intel would be still pushing Pentium 2s out at $500 a pop
 
I think AMD needs to start following Intel's tick-tock schedule. They should have moved Phenom to 32nm 6-9 months ago. This would have gotten them familiar with 32nm with a stable architecture and provided power reduction and headroom. Not to mention cost saving for AMD. Might have been able to head off some of the people that jumped to Sandy Bridge.
 
AMD is actually quite a bit smaller than Intel and as such has a much smaller R&D budget.

So the very fact that AMD is even making Intel sweat a bit with the release of Bulldozer is a major accomplishment.

If AMD had never come along with Athlon to push Intel then we'd be lucky if they had even made it to the Core 2 Duo days. Intel would have had no reason to push ahead and develop any of the i5 or i7 series at all.

That's why I'm an AMD fan, cause Intel has a habit of sitting fat and lazy when they aren't pushed.
 
I love how a bunch of teenagers talk so much crap about stuff they know nothing about.. Are any of you old enough to remember when AMD dominated Intel with the K6-2, K6-3, Athlon XP (Tbird and Barton), Athlon 64, and Athlon 64X2? I made lots of money off of AMD through Stock during these high times. Just remember all companies have ups and downs, and AMD is just having a down time.

If AMD folded up shop do you think Intel would keep making such large strides in the CPU market? I think not because competition breeds advancement and R&D!

Oh and what do you think the largest portion of CPU sales are? That's right the low to mid range!

I rest my case.
 
[citation][nom]TickTockClock[/nom]I think AMD needs to start following Intel's tick-tock schedule. They should have moved Phenom to 32nm 6-9 months ago. This would have gotten them familiar with 32nm with a stable architecture and provided power reduction and headroom. Not to mention cost saving for AMD. Might have been able to head off some of the people that jumped to Sandy Bridge.[/citation]

Keep in mind upgrading to a finer manufacturing process both costs money and down-time. If AMD was as aggressive with upgrades I think they'd run into problems of chip shortages, which is why it's sometimes better to just let Intel have it's cake and enjoy it. The real difficulty with SB right now is AMDs Bulldozer is late to the game.
 
[citation][nom]quicksilver98[/nom]I love how a bunch of teenagers talk so much crap about stuff they know nothing about.. Are any of you old enough to remember when AMD dominated Intel with the K6-2, K6-3, Athlon XP (Tbird and Barton), Athlon 64, and Athlon 64X2? I made lots of money off of AMD through Stock during these high times. Just remember all companies have ups and downs, and AMD is just having a down time. If AMD folded up shop do you think Intel would keep making such large strides in the CPU market? I think not because competition breeds advancement and R&D!Oh and what do you think the largest portion of CPU sales are? That's right the low to mid range!I rest my case.[/citation]


The K6 line was crap compared to Pentium II and III. The Athlon was a true blue champ. But, those days are distant memories.
 
I will say that the athlon x2 7850 black edition (basically the 1st gen of phenom chips - dual core) is equal as in clock for clock with the Intel C2D...
it's just that AMD didn't stock them higher than (2.8GHz) but since it's a BEdition with the unlocked multi, I just cranked it up..
 
Just a better yielding part that probably clocks a little higher. AMD hasn't even introduced a new stepping since C3 -_-. Guess it will have to do for another month till AMD launches bulldozer. Really though the only point of this CPU is for people who already have an AM2+ or AM3 board with an older CPU and are looking for an upgrade
 
The 980 can likely be clocked higher than any other AMD CPU. AMD may not be showing a great deal of profitability right now, but they are developing some compelling technology.
A couple of years ago, everyone thought AMD was insane and suicidal for acquiring Ati. Who thinks this was a bad idea now?
AMD is not dead, in fact they are developing some innovative products and people are getting excited about what they are bringing out next.

BTW, if you start your post by flaming half the people here then say "don't flame me", it makes you look like a whiny baby.
 
I just thought I'd highlight to those people who think Core 2 was vastly superior to Phenom II...

All 3.2GHz stock (Thuban turbos to 3.6GHz so please bear in mind):
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2.8Ghz (Thuban up to 3.3GHz, 9550S at 2.83GHz, E7500 at 2.93GHz)
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Really, I can't see why people say Core 2 was better when these benchmarks show a rather close picture overall. Kenstfield wins some, Deneb others. Sometimes having six cores makes no real difference, sometimes it does. Having a very large L2 cache is a big help for Core 2 (especially considering it's inclusive cache) but I certainly wouldn't fork out for the QX9770 (12MB L2) when the difference is as minimal as it is over Deneb (and especially when Thuban handily beats it in the majority of content creation scenarios). This is one of the reasons that Phenom II worked well against Core 2 - it offered similar performance in most workloads for a lower price, and especially so if you take the Core 2 Extreme into account.

One more you: QX9770 vs. 980 and 970:
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I think Phenom II works better with more cores than it does with more speed, however it's not the dog that a lot of people think it is.
 
sigh i remember the days of AMD fanboys always talking trash on intel during the p3/p4 era.... Now its the other way around lol. Even though I've always been with the Intel bandwagon, I do hope AMD can catch up. While AMD was dominated in the 04s that pushed Intel to make better products ie the e6600
 
I like AMD (borderline fanboy) and have a Phenom II 970, but you would be an idiot to buy this chip considering for an extra $100 you can have a wicked SB.
 
The only positive side to this launch is that it should force the 955 lower in price, that's the one that anyone with half a brain & a half decent amd mobo looking to upgrade is gonna buy anyway. for peeps looking for a full overhaul, it's gotta be 2500k, alot more bang for the same money. roll on zambezi... even if it ain't as good as sandy bridge, it should hopefully provide some competition & lower prices.
 
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