News AMD Launches Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 CPUs, Launches September 27

[Admin]

AMD launched its highly-anticipated Ryzen 7000 series.

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[thisisaname]

The price at the bottom end is disappointing, I may as well wait for the 3d version and the price and speed of DDR5 to improve before taking the leap.


Good round up thank you.

 

[shady28]

Like, they didn't really load AMD RAM settings into an Alder Lake did they?

From endnotes :

3. RPL-008: Testing as of 15 August, 2022, by AMD Performance Labs using the following hardware: AMD AM5 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X with G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded, AMD AM4 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X and DDR4-3600C16, and ROG Maximus Z690 Hero with Core i9-12900K and G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded. ALL SYSTEMS configured with NXZT Kraken X63, open air test bench, Radeon™ RX 6950XT (driver 22.7.1 Optional), Windows® 11 22000.856, AMD Smart Access Memory/PCIe® Resizable Base Address Register (“ReBAR”) ON, Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) OFF. Results may vary.

 

[helper800]

Like, they didn't really load AMD RAM settings into an Alder Lake did they?

From endnotes :

3. RPL-008: Testing as of 15 August, 2022, by AMD Performance Labs using the following hardware: AMD AM5 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X with G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded, AMD AM4 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X and DDR4-3600C16, and ROG Maximus Z690 Hero with Core i9-12900K and G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded. ALL SYSTEMS configured with NXZT Kraken X63, open air test bench, Radeon™ RX 6950XT (driver 22.7.1 Optional), Windows® 11 22000.856, AMD Smart Access Memory/PCIe® Resizable Base Address Register (“ReBAR”) ON, Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) OFF. Results may vary.

I would assume thats a typo. How or why would a z690 motherboard have an AMD RAM setting to select?

 

[rluker5]

Maybe, but that is better than I thought they would do. 6000c30, even XMP is way better than Micron. 5-10 ns slower than my 1st pass tuned 6400c30 on a Prime P and 12700k. But still better than most reviews of Alder.
Also there is the lack of CPU tuning with e-cores, but that is pretty complicated to explain in a presentation's footnotes and wouldn't look good for them so I honestly can't complain.

 

[rluker5]

Like, they didn't really load AMD RAM settings into an Alder Lake did they?

From endnotes :

3. RPL-008: Testing as of 15 August, 2022, by AMD Performance Labs using the following hardware: AMD AM5 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X with G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded, AMD AM4 Reference Motherboard with AMD Ryzen™ 9 5950X and DDR4-3600C16, and ROG Maximus Z690 Hero with Core i9-12900K and G.Skill DDR5-6000C30 (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N) with AMD EXPO™ loaded. ALL SYSTEMS configured with NXZT Kraken X63, open air test bench, Radeon™ RX 6950XT (driver 22.7.1 Optional), Windows® 11 22000.856, AMD Smart Access Memory/PCIe® Resizable Base Address Register (“ReBAR”) ON, Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) OFF. Results may vary.

I would assume thats a typo. How or why would a z690 motherboard have an AMD RAM setting to select?

They could type them in manually. If it boots it boots. But probably a typo. They would have used XMP for simplicity and lower, yet legitimate results. XMP isn't bad at 6000c30, not the best but not bad either.

 

[Jimbojan]

Based on the power efficiency you showed here, Intel Raptor Lake ( Intel7 ) is already slightly better than AMD (TSMC 5nm), and Intel is able to run higher frequency; clearly shows Intel has a better design than AMD's. When Meteor Lake shows up next year, its Intel4 will be 40% better in power efficiency, that is the time Intel has a definitive lead in power efficiency, may be even better than Apple ARM M3 in 2023, check it out this time next year to confirm it yourself.

 

[gamr]

The price at the bottom end is disappointing, I may as well wait for the 3d version and the price and speed of DDR5 to improve before taking the leap.


Good round up thank you.

kingston ddr5 is cheap(ish)

 

[shady28]

They could type them in manually. If it boots it boots. But probably a typo. They would have used XMP for simplicity and lower, yet legitimate results. XMP isn't bad at 6000c30, not the best but not bad either.

I expect it's a typo, but it does bring up that they are running fairly 'hot' on both rigs.

My biggest callout is, they had the 12900K getting 2040 single thread in Geekbench 5 on a rig with DDR5-6000 C30. Well just go to Geekbench 5 browser on the web and type in 12900K.

You'll find like 10 on the first page that beat 2040 single thread. 2040 is not a score that a 12900K with well tuned DDR5-6000 gets, it should be at least a hundred points higher.

It's best to remember this is not a review, it is a 'reveal', a vendor presentation of their new product. They will never ever put up anything that does not show them in a good light. Intel does this too.

 

[JamesJones44]

I expect it's a typo, but it does bring up that they are running fairly 'hot' on both rigs.

My biggest callout is, they had the 12900K getting 2040 single thread in Geekbench 5 on a rig with DDR5-6000 C30. Well just go to Geekbench 5 browser on the web and type in 12900K.

You'll find like 10 on the first page that beat 2040 single thread. 2040 is not a score that a 12900K with well tuned DDR5-6000 gets, it should be at least a hundred points higher.

It's best to remember this is not a review, it is a 'reveal', a vendor presentation of their new product. They will never ever put up anything that does not show them in a good light. Intel does this too.

Definitely are going to have to wait for the reviews to know anything for sure. AMD could be low balling it or cherry picking based on what the showed. Hopefully AMD lifts the blackout date on reviews in the next few days or weeks.

 

[Why_Me]

$300 + DDR5

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I’ve got a friend who is intending to go for the 7900x. So that should be interesting to see what performance it has. Meanwhile I’m still rocking my old AsRock ab350 pro 4 board with a 3600. Though I just picked up a 5600x on eBay for 165 with shipping, should be able to sell the 3600 for just under 100. So I figure that will hold me over until I feel like jumping.

 

[shady28]

Honestly the DDR5 isn't as expensive as it was, unless you are looking at 6000+ variants.

SK Hynix is the best now for DDR5, anything XMP rated over 6000 is likely SK Hynix
Samsung is #2 - Max 6000, usually 5600
Micron is worst - Max 5600, usually 5200

You can get 32GB DDR5-5600 C36 likely with Samsung chips for $170.

It's when you try to get something faster than that (like they used in their tests) that you suddenly pop up to $250++++

 

[lmcnabney]

Because of the Infinity Fabric pretty much the only memory you should get is DDR5 6000 with as low a latency as you can afford. That memory is in the $300 range for 2x16GB. That is a big cost when the competition can slap DDR4 3200 for $200 less.

 

[mikewinddale]

The Ryzen 7000 lineup also brings integrated RDNA 2 graphics to all of the processors in the stack, a first for the Ryzen family.

Does this mean they won't support ECC UDIMMs anymore? I hope that's not the case, because the AM4 Ryzen provided a great way to get ECC support without going with an expensive Xeon or ThreadRipper.

 

[Why_Me]

I’ve got a friend who is intending to go for the 7900x. So that should be interesting to see what performance it has. Meanwhile I’m still rocking my old AsRock ab350 pro 4 board with a 3600. Though I just picked up a 5600x on eBay for 165 with shipping, should be able to sell the 3600 for just under 100. So I figure that will hold me over until I feel like jumping.

Jim Harbaugh says 'Go Blue' as in Team Blue

 

[ohio_buckeye]

How many times have they beaten the buckeyes in recent years? Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

 

[renz496]

So $300 7600X. Haha some people hope that would be 7700X.

 

[btmedic04]

i currently have a crosshair 8 impact with a 5600x, 32gb ddr4 3600c14 and 3090. it might make more sense for me to snag a 5800x3d and wait for zen 5. zen 4 looks interesting, but ill wait for reviews to make a decision

 

[King_V]

My initial not-completely-awake thought . . I can't say I'm thrilled with AMD closing the gap with Intel in the power consumption department...

 

[watzupken]

Based on the power efficiency you showed here, Intel Raptor Lake ( Intel7 ) is already slightly better than AMD (TSMC 5nm), and Intel is able to run higher frequency; clearly shows Intel has a better design than AMD's. When Meteor Lake shows up next year, its Intel4 will be 40% better in power efficiency, that is the time Intel has a definitive lead in power efficiency, may be even better than Apple ARM M3 in 2023, check it out this time next year to confirm it yourself.

I won't take some hypothetical numbers and paint a blue sky picture here. As a matter of fact, looking at Intel Alder Lake's power consumption numbers, I am not optimistic about the power consumption of Raptor Lake given that they are based on Intel's 10nm with minor refinements. Also, I see no point in comparing clockspeed because it is just 1 metric that influences performance, while there are other factors at play. Just because it is designed to pull higher power to run at higher clock, does not mean it is better designed.

 

[watzupken]

My initial not-completely-awake thought . . I can't say I'm thrilled with AMD closing the gap with Intel in the power consumption department...

Likewise. But I guess this is inevitable given that Intel started giving themselves the advantage with more power. So to close that gap, it also means AMD will have to bump power consumption up. You can deliver IPC improvements, but that number in today's context may be too low when you can clearly tell people are expecting very high double digits improvement in performance over previous gen.

 

[Amdlova]

Nah I think this hype train of new am5 don't justify the price for pci 5 (low end mother boards can't do de job) and new shine ddr5 (another junk) got a z590 ud ac for 68us and a i5 11400 130us will be my new machine. 300us +++ for a six core in nowadays is a bad joke

 

[KyaraM]

I won't take some hypothetical numbers and paint a blue sky picture here. As a matter of fact, looking at Intel Alder Lake's power consumption numbers, I am not optimistic about the power consumption of Raptor Lake given that they are based on Intel's 10nm with minor refinements. Also, I see no point in comparing clockspeed because it is just 1 metric that influences performance, while there are other factors at play. Just because it is designed to pull higher power to run at higher clock, does not mean it is better designed.

You mean those 30-60W my 12700k draws in gaming on average, with Raptor being slightly higher? Yeah, it's really power inefficient, especially compared with my 200-290W GPU./s

 

[Giroro]

" EXPO (EXtended Profiles for Overclocking) profiles. "

EXPO Is officially my least favorite acronym of 2022 acronyms.