Question AMD or Intel

[Wing901]

According to cpubenchmark.net, the score of i7 14700K are 52548(multithread) and 4474(single thread), Ryzen 7 9800X3D are 39998(multithread) and 4431(single thread). The performance of i7 14700K is significant faster than Ryzen 7 9800X3D but why the latter is more expensive?

Is the trend(Intel have been more expensive than AMD since microprocessors came to the market) changed?

 

[kanewolf]

According to cpubenchmark.net, the score of i7 14700K are 52548(multithread) and 4474(single thread), Ryzen 7 9800X3D are 39998(multithread) and 4431(single thread). The performance of i7 14700K is significant faster than Ryzen 7 9800X3D but why the latter is more expensive?

Is the trend(Intel have been more expensive than AMD since microprocessors came to the market) changed?

One benchmark is not sufficient to determine which is "better". You should look for benchmarks that use applications similar to what you will be using the CPU for. If you are a gamer, then look at FPS comparisons of the two. If you are a creator look at rendering or content creation benchmarks. Don't just look at CPU benchmarks.

 

[punkncat]

CPU Benchmark has repeatedly been called out for Intel bias. IMO Passmark is tried and true.

EDIT- it was called out below that I had a moment and forgot that CPUB is Passmark. I was thinking of UBM. Pls see post 5 and 6 below.

 

[Zerk2012]

According to cpubenchmark.net, the score of i7 14700K are 52548(multithread) and 4474(single thread), Ryzen 7 9800X3D are 39998(multithread) and 4431(single thread). The performance of i7 14700K is significant faster than Ryzen 7 9800X3D but why the latter is more expensive?

Is the trend(Intel have been more expensive than AMD since microprocessors came to the market) changed?

Depends on exactly what the PC will be used for and what programs.
Look for benchmarks for your specific programs if for work.
I'm a Intel fan but if I was buying for gaming then the AMD processor.

 

[TerryLaze]

CPU Benchmark has repeatedly been called out for Intel bias. IMO Passmark is tried and true.

You are thinking of userbenchmark, cpubenchmark is passmark.

According to cpubenchmark.net, the score of i7 14700K are 52548(multithread) and 4474(single thread), Ryzen 7 9800X3D are 39998(multithread) and 4431(single thread). The performance of i7 14700K is significant faster than Ryzen 7 9800X3D but why the latter is more expensive?

Is the trend(Intel have been more expensive than AMD since microprocessors came to the market) changed?

Just a guess, but ryzen sells a lot less so they have to charge more (economy of scale) also the cache the x3d has is an additional cost that also takes the cpu longer to make so it's more expensive to produce.

A lot of games run very well on the extra cache though so it will be faster than the intel CPU in those games.

 

[punkncat]

You are thinking of userbenchmark, cpubenchmark is passmark.

My bad, thank you for the correction for the OP at least. I do know better but had a moment, I guess.

 

[punkncat]

As to the single core difference, you aren't going to notice that. Expect some variance for your own CPU.

I would consider that the multi-thread difference comes down to the significant core/thread difference. Seeing that difference in action is going to be another thing altogether. It would depend on running a bevy of programs that actually use and are optimized to use multiple threads (and all at the same time).

The X3D variants are (supposedly) significant performance gains specific to gaming workloads.

 

[Wing901]

CPU Benchmark has repeatedly been called out for Intel bias. IMO Passmark is tried and true.I

I just searched from internet. The score of these 2 cpus in Geekbench is somewhat close. i7-14700K are 2933 and 18919. Ryzen 7 9800X3D are 3343 and 18426.

 

[Wing901]

As to the single core difference, you aren't going to notice that. Expect some variance for your own CPU.

I would consider that the multi-thread difference comes down to the significant core/thread difference. Seeing that difference in action is going to be another thing altogether. It would depend on running a bevy of programs that actually use and are optimized to use multiple threads (and all at the same time).

The X3D variants are (supposedly) significant performance gains specific to gaming workloads.

For daily(regular) use, Intel maybe a slightly faster.

 

[artk2219]

Youre better off looking at a few reviews than using those benchmarking sites. Usually its only a few tests, and they can be a bit biased depending on how they test. Passmark is pretty good, but it loves cores, E-cores or P-core, the more the better for passmark, even if in the real world the difference is not always as noticeable. Im throwing out a few 9950X3D reviews because they generally have the 14700k and comparable cpu's in it as well so you can see how they scale in a few different scenarios. Your mileage may vary as your use case could be different than what they tested. But at least they generally test out enough different things that you can draw some meaningful conclusions.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-review/3

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d/26.html

https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-9800x3d-285k-9950x-more

 

[kanewolf]

For daily(regular) use, Intel maybe a slightly faster.

For a daily driver, you probably won't use most of that performance. I would look at a 9600X or similar for a daily driver. Why have the extra heat and power usage for a top end CPU if you won't be stressing it.

 

[geofelt]

Current products need to sell at a comparable price/performance or they will not sell at all.

One also needs to look at the dates when reviews are done.
Newly launched processors will get motherboard bios updates frequently to address compatibility and performance issues.

The real test is how a processor performs with YOUR workload and components.
By and large, you will not be able to tell the difference without a synthetic test of some sort.

 

[Misgar]

AMD or Intel?

I'm quite happy with both manufacturers and have a rougly equal number of AMD and Intel CPUs. A mixture of AMD Phenom, FM2 and Ryzens + Intel Pentium, i3, i5, i7 (various generations) and Xeons.

I'm glad I picked the 3800X and 7950X for my last two builds, given the overvoltage induced deaths of some high end 13th and 14th Gen. Intel CPUs. Ryzens were not without their own overheating problems on some boards.

These days, I might pick an Intel 265K or 285K, maybe a 9950X (not X3D because I don't game). I'd really like a Threadripper, but I'm reluctant to spend huge sums of money just now.

Intead of looking at generic benchmarks, check out recommended system specs for your most frequently used programs. Some apps benefit from large numbers of cores. Games may run faster with an AMD X3D.