AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition For Gaming?

[argueta789]

I am ready to buy components to build my pc , but first i have a question , would this cpu benefit my gaming performance. or is their cpu better for gaming within the same price range? Mostly using pc for gaming and surfing the web.
thanks also any recommendations in motherboards? 320$ just for motherboard and cpu i have left over

 

[noob2222]

as long as its not specified for mini atx only, yes, most mid or fulls should support it. also, local stores should be cheaper than online due to shipping.

something like this http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0257843

 

[markuk1]

Why would you get rid of an i5-2500k system, when it completely outperforms it and you already bought the parts and built it. How does it cost too much if you already built it, then by building a phenom machine you spent more. You make no sense.

cause im never happy lol! i hate the thought of having a machine that is massively over powered its no fun. I like the x4 955 cause it just feels perfect for gaming low price overclocks like hell and performs within a few fps of all the expensive intel chips and the price is excellent i still have the i7 920 on a asus rampage III extreme mobo i used to have two gtx 570s aswell but i got sick of this rig very quickly because of the amount of noise it produced an performance wasnt as amazing as i thought it would be with sli. I am now able to play games in near silence witch was what i was aiming for and i wanted a micro atx build so i could move it around easily but it has now taken over from my main rig as it performs so well hes what i use now. [fractal design define min]

-x4 955@4.4ghz 1.5v
-msi890gxm-
asus gtx 570
-8gb corsair dominator-corsair
850w psu-corsair 250gb ssd
be quite dark rock advanced

 

[argueta789]

is that msi good for overclocking?

 

[markuk1]

yea good for me any way got my x4 at 4.4 @1.5 its usually down to the chip more for overclocking it supports 140w tho i wouldnt get this board it only has two fan headers unless this doesnt bother you although maby my rampage III spoiled me lol!

 

[redsunrises]

cause im never happy lol! i hate the thought of having a machine that is massively over powered its no fun. I like the x4 955 cause it just feels perfect for gaming low price overclocks like hell and performs within a few fps of all the expensive intel chips and the price is excellent i still have the i7 920 on a asus rampage III extreme mobo i used to have two gtx 570s aswell but i got sick of this rig very quickly because of the amount of noise it produced an performance wasnt as amazing as i thought it would be with sli. I am now able to play games in near silence witch was what i was aiming for and i wanted a micro atx build so i could move it around easily but it has now taken over from my main rig as it performs so well hes what i use now. [fractal design define min]

-x4 955@4.4ghz 1.5v
-msi890gxm-
asus gtx 570
-8gb corsair dominator-corsair
850w psu-corsair 250gb ssd
be quite dark rock advanced

I am exactly the same way! Haha I used to run an 1100t with dual 6950s with some awesome parts... cost me around like 1200. IMO it was overkill, so I sold it, and now just use an A8-3850 APU LOL which only cost me like 400. I guess I just dont mind playing games on lowered settings, since I usually think a game is fun based on the game, and not the graphics... Anyway, kind of off topic... 😛

 

[amuffin]

why is it that bulldozer cant perform to the likes of the i5

Because amd fails at cpu architecture.

 

[argueta789]

Amd PhenomII X4 955 BE

MSI 970A-G45 ATX AM3+

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W

Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 1600 DDR3

Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB

Coolermaster Elite 430 Black ATX Mid Tower Case

Everything sound good and compatible?

 

[noob2222]

Amd PhenomII X4 955 BE

MSI 970A-G45 ATX AM3+

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus

OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W

Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 1600 DDR3

Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB

Coolermaster Elite 430 Black ATX Mid Tower Case

Everything sound good and compatible?

Looks like a real good lower budget build with room to expand when needed. +1

 

[argueta789]

what games can i look to play with this build? , with atleast mid graphics

 

[Welve]

what games can i look to play with this build? , with atleast mid graphics

I don't think you will have a problem gaming at medium settings in current games with the 6870, perhaps higher, the 6870 is a good card for a very reasonable price. The nVidia and ATI lineup appears to be based on preference right now, check Tom's value for November

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fastest-graphics-card-radeon-geforce,3067-4.html

 

[redsunrises]

what games can i look to play with this build? , with atleast mid graphics

You can play any game with that build... some will play great, others might need a few settings lowered to get the desired FPS... But I had a build just like that a few weeks ago and it ran every game I threw at it Happy gaming!

 

[markuk1]

every game no problem only the real beasty games like crysis 2 with dx11 an hi res textures will cause you a bit of a performance hit but 90% of games you will be able to max out no problem

 

[argueta789]

what could i improve on?

 

[noob2222]

when needed, another 6870, but for now it should handle most any game.

 

[argueta789]

also is there a big difference between 1600 ddr3
memory vs 1333 ddr3?

 

[Houndsteeth]

Because amd fails at cpu architecture.

Let's see...

AMD spends about $1.8 billion on R&D. This includes CPU, GPU and chipset development.

Intel spends about $6.5 billion a year on R&D. This includes a broad range of products, but a large portion is earmarked towards processor development.

The Core architecture is a very mature product. The current SB processors are the second generation of the Core iX series, and represent the fourth generation of the Core series (Core, Core2Duo & Core2Quad, Core iX 1156 & 1366, Core iX 1155). Intel has sunk a LOT of their R&D budget into these processors and has leveraged a good deal of performance out of this investment.

Bulldozer is the first processor in its line. It has not had nearly enough time to mature. That it has come out the gate at the level of performance it commands speaks volumes to its design team. Sure, it ain't no SB, but this team has built an entirely new architecture that is at least keeping in the same heat as SB, and on a fraction of the budget. As the architecture matures and we start to see corrections and enhancements to the design, we will see improved performance and efficiency. Will it ever be better than SB? Probably not. But it's still an accomplishment, especially when no one else is even trying to step up to the plate to compete with Intel.

AMD has always seemed to perform like this. The first generation of a new processor line always seems to suffer, but it improves as the R&D team takes time to perfect the architecture and add enhancements. The original Phenom was most decidedly a bomb, but the Phenom II is most decidedly a very strong performer.

Hopefully, given time, BD will mature into a very good product, just like the Phenom. At the same time, Intel will be moving forward with Ivy Bridge and beyond. I don't see AMD ever taking the performance crown again, but I do see paradigm shifts happening in the demand for general purpose CPUs. As we see more and more people using mart phones and tablets in lieu of laptops and PCs, and more consoles playing games, you will see demand for low-power, high performance processors, where other non-X86 architectures dominate the landscape.

 

[noob2222]

also is there a big difference between 1600 ddr3
memory vs 1333 ddr3?

on the 955 cpu .. no

 

[jerry6]

on the 955 cpu .. no

negligible difference on a 1100t and 1090t as well

 

[tiboilou]

Hi,

I got a new rig and I play Flight simulator X and Battlefield 3 with it on ultra settings on a 40" LCD TV (1280 x 720). I got in average 36 fps in BF3 and about 50 FPS in FSX.

Asus M5A97 (not the evo one)
X2 555 @4200 GHZ
Gskills memory 1600MHZ native (7-8-7-24)
Ati radeon 6770

Overcloking my CPU did not make a huge difference. But I will replace my CPU in about 2 years for a X4 since some games can take advantage of it. But the speed is more crucial than the number of cores in most games.

X6 is useless in games. Go with X4 with a good speed (MHZ).

 

[harna]

Because amd fails at cpu architecture.

...Then please drscribe for me Intels GPU architecture....this should be enlightening... :lol:

 

[harna]

also is there a big difference between 1600 ddr3
memory vs 1333 ddr3?

Hi there argueta789

I have both 965 with 6850 and 1090T with 5770 X-Fire. In games the 1090 T setup performs best, currently playing through Crysis 2 single player mode at 1680x1050 in Ultra settings mode and enjoy good quality game play. I have plans to X-Fire the 6850 a little latter down the track.

Look at the case carefully if you plan to OC and X-Fire that 6870. Between the proc, two powerful GPU's and a high capacity PSU you are up for some serious heat disipation requirements or she'll roar like the southern express. I like your choice of Cooler Master, I have both pc's inside their Sniper model and it keeps a good lid on things. I am only using stock cooling and frequencies and have no issue with heat lock-ups.

If you are going for the Rip Jaw RAM at 1600...I'd tend to lean toward the 6100 BD, 6 cores and runs at 3.3GHz stock as opposed to 3.2 and can take advantage of the RAM speed. It also turbos up so the need for OCing is not as high. It also supports aditional instruction sets over the Deneb Proc which is already a 3 gen old design, behind Thurban and BD. But either way your setup looks good to go and should provide you with many hours of enjoyment.

 

[argueta789]

thanks guys 😉 i will check it out ^

 

[argueta789]

i will go down to 1333 no problem as its even better for me as i can get a rebate from corsair , will this msi MOBO be able to manage the overclocking of the 955?

 

[NoxNoctura]

For what it's worth...

I built my rig last July on a budget.

Mobo: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
CPU: AMD Phenom II 965 BE
RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333mhz
PSU: OCZ ModXStream 700W
GPU: XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 XT 1GB
Cheap 500GB HDD
Cheap optical drives
...and a case that I got out of a dumpster at the college.

I've played the following games at the highest settings in 1920x1200 with zero hiccups: CoD: Black Ops, Battlefield BC2, Battlefield 3, SC2, Fallout: NV, Empire: TW. On Flight Sim X it auto-defaults to ultra settings. It's an extremely stout build that cost me around $600 (after rebates) a year and a half ago..and it still runs everything I need WITHOUT OC.

Gaming rigs on a budget. I've never been able to afford to build a top of the line rig...but I've got a lot of experience in building bargain machines that run beautifully.

 

[jerry6]

new egg rip jaws 1600 @37.00 for 2x4gb it will clock down to 1333 or you can run it at 1600 if you feel like it