News AMD pins Ryzen 9000 'failures' on compatibility issues — BIOS update recommended to avoid boot problems

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Is this statement from AMD just in regards to a failure to boot due to incompatible memory issue that is possible with all new builds or in regards to the permanent breaking of many X3D chips, mostly in Asrock motherboards, that recently hit the news?

It looks like the former and if so is basically AMD lying for good publicity for anyone who believes it is the latter.

Edit: Imagine if one exchanged AMD for Intel in this article back when many i7s and i9s were getting regular 1.6v spikes before the updated bioses put a stop to that and Intel said it was just some qvl issue. Not that this is as widespread or anything, but the principal is the same.
 
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It is very far from the same Intel encouraged this behaviour by Motherboard companys as it got them bragging rights ...its also not the same in the long term Intel knew there was a production issue with the CPU over 2 generations and then tried to hide it and even push back on RMAs
Intel are just dirty they have been caught and fined twice in the past and now this as well
 
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Is this statement from AMD just in regards to a failure to boot due to incompatible memory issue that is possible with all new builds or in regards to the permanent breaking of many X3D chips, mostly in Asrock motherboards, that recently hit the news?

It looks like the former and if so is basically AMD lying for good publicity for anyone who believes it is the latter.

Edit: Imagine if one exchanged AMD for Intel in this article back when many i7s and i9s were getting regular 1.6v spikes before the updated bioses put a stop to that and Intel said it was just some qvl issue. Not that this is as widespread or anything, but the principal is the same.
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It is very far from the same Intel encouraged this behaviour by Motherboard companys as it got them bragging rights ...its also not the same in the long term Intel knew there was a production issue with the CPU over 2 generations and then tried to hide it and even push back on RMAs
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We have no proof or indication that AMD are being dishonest. Furthermore they have (according to the article) worked directly with ASRock to identify and remedy the problem. No comment is made with regard to the blistered CPU though iirc it was on an ASRock motherboard so my expectation is that it would have been properly investigated too. It would be stupid not to do so.

Intel blamed all and sundry in the chase for FPS. It was bad Nvidia software, it was bad bios implementations… it was bad everything but microcode.

Please don’t conflate the problems.
 
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It seems that there are a significant number of people with booting issues with X3D chips and Asrock boards and that is a separate issue to the 100 some 9X3D CPU failures that hasn't been reported by tech media.
But AMD's statement: “We are aware of a limited number of user reports involving ASRock AM5 motherboards failing to complete POST. Following a joint investigation, AMD and ASRock identified a memory capability issue present in earlier BIOS versions, which has been rectified in the latest BIOS,” AMD told Tom’s Hardware. “ASRock has already issued guidance on this behavior and addressed a singular report of a damaged CPU.” does in no way make this clear and its timing is a day or two after articles of failures of a different nature popped up across tech media.

I'm just calling them as I see them with AMD's misleading statement, but it isn't a good thing that we can now add widespread boot failures due to memory compatibility (with Asrock motherboards on all but current bioses) to the notable number of chip failures when assessing launch reliability.
 
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