AMD Plans to Slash Pricing of Dual-Core Chips Shortly

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Those same economists could be trying to minimize the losses!
 
I wish they would stop doing this because I can't resist and then I upgrade and it is this big ordeal.......you see I have several computers and when I upgrade one then some of the stuff gets shifted to the next one...etc. and so I end up taking several of the computers apart in order to transfer parts.............sigh..................(must resist).........resistance is futile........
 


Maybe AMD wants to clear a way to introduce Phenoms. With their price cuts though, AMD might bleed more money, if Phenom is late again.
 



AMD loses money. They aren't profiting. They are losing a half billion dollars a quarter.


Oh, and for those of you that want to call me an Intel fanboy, look here: http://finance.google.com/finance?fstype=ii&q=NYSE:AMD

13 weeks Ending 2007-06-30
Operating Income -457.00 (in MILLIONS)

13 weeks Ending 2007-03-31
Operating Income -504.00 (in MILLIONS)

13 weeks Ending 2006-12-31
Operating Income -526.88 (in MILLIONS)

Hint: the minus in front of the figures means NEGATIVE, or a LOSS.

Losing a billion and a half in your last three quarters isn't a good thing... Wallstreet agrees, AMD stock has gone from $40 a share to $12.
 


HA! Tell that to AMD's stockholders and their creditors! They're already losing money as-is.
 
What would be the real point of putting out benchmarks on the current barcelona chips that are intended for server systems at the mid range level?

The chips we will want the data for is scheduled for 1st quarter of 08 and probably won't be out by then either.

I know the excitement provokes premature actions and I am as guilty as the next... =P
 


LIES!!!! ALL LIES!!!!

Once K10 is introduced, Intel will soon see 50% reduction in revenue. Intel BK 2Q08, and Pat Otellini will soon find himself jobless, on the street.
 


From our inside source, AMD plans to include a X2 5200+ inside the kids meal in MCD. :lol: :lol:
 


ROFL




Would you like to supersize that? Or perhaps for a quarter more you'd like an Athlon X2 dual core processor?
 
Here's the latest from THG regarding the price cuts. A quick search on pricegrabber and pricewatch are reflecting the new prices.

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34250/118/

Damned that's some cheap processors! I have to admit, ~$160 for a 6000 is pretty damned tempting!

 


The problem for AMD is than an E6550 is +/- $ 169.00 (according to pricewatch.com)

At stock speeds an x2-6000 and an E6550 are very close, but if you over clock them both the Intel will run away so far and fast you can't even see the x2-6000 in the rear view mirror anymore.

An x2-6000 also takes about 120 watts whiile an E6550 takes 65 watts.

AMD can't price slash it's way to profitability - I simply needs a faster product.

Unless and untill AMD cranks out a chip that go toe to toe with Intel on the performance front, the rest is just re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
 




It is barely a price cut. Anand has the new prices.
 

I don't intend to get into an debate and am just sharing some thoughts.

The functional phrase is, "if you overclock them". You've got to remember Joe Average doesn't overclock and outside of the enthusiast community if you say the words overclocking you'll get blank stares. When discussing these things, we should remember that most of the world operates at stock speeds. The only reason Joe Average and the everyday average office worker recognizes their desktop has "Intel Inside" is because Dell still gives you little choice in the matter and the countless hours of TV commercials.

The joke about heat and cpu wattage is that during the Prescott days and (mostly) up until the Athlon64 how much wattage and heat a proc produced was a non-issue. It was, IMO, the Prescott compared to the Athlon 64's that brought wattage and heat into the mainstream enthusiast mindset. Up until then it was accepted that you'd buy an aftermarket heatsink and add more fans to your case. So, while wattage and heat is a legit concern, the fact that the 6000 is a 120w part compared to the 65w E6550, the issue of wattage and heat as a whole has become a new rally cry for certain fans to claim their brand of proc is better.

"Slashing away profitability" is interesting in that it ignores the fact that AMD is less than 18 months into the ATI buy-out. Rule of thumb for a reasonable ROI is 3-5 years. So, given that they borrowed $2.5B to complete the deal and are still able to cut prices to stay competitive speaks largely to their long term plans/roadmap and the partnerships they've established and created to ensure a level of revenue. And, given the recent reports that AMD has gained market share over the past 2 quarters, I'm not so sure they're slashing away anything.

At this stage, AMD does not need to "beat" Intel with a "chip that can go toe-to-toe...on the performance front". AMD just needs to produce chips to keep them competitive in the market. At stock speeds and at similiar price points, the current line-up between AMD and Intel is pretty stinking competitive. All jokes aside, Barcelona is a good example because all existing datacenters and IT Managers need to do maintain the infrastructure they invested heavily in 2-3 years ago is a simple BIOS update to effectively double their processing power. As opposed to a new mobo and proc, or in the case of some data centers a new server altogether.

Ask yourself this, hypothetically speaking, what happens when the EU, Korea, and other countries begin enumerating fines against Intel as a result of the anti-trust lawsuits? What happens when Intel is forced to pay AMD damages and lost revenue from those suits? Don't kid yourself, it will happen, it's just a matter of time and how much.
 



WHAT!? AMD IS CUTTING PRICES!? THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE A MONOPOLY!? ANTI-TRUST!!!



Hey Fudrix, care to come to defense of a 1.5 Billion (yes, with a B) loss over the last three quarters?


I'm sure Fudrix would assure me that Q307 numbers will be profitable, of course. This is because of AMD's high yields and mature 65nm native quad cores, and because of their ability to release new products on time.
 


You have issues.
 

but you can get better amd MB for less then intel ones and the intel MB need more power to run
 
May I add that the overclocking population is only 2%? That's like less than 200 million of us overclockers, so AMD has some great cpu especially for their price for people who doesn't overclock. The 6000+ beats the e6550 by a small amount, however it takes more energy than the e6550.

Another thing as to why AMD hasn't changed their "high end" (if you can call it that) to 65nm tech, it's because the 65nm has a "leaking" problem. I forgot much about this but basically it leaks so much at high clock speeds that it is less efficient than the 90nm tech. Their Barcy had a similar problem, which will soon fixed by a new stepping revision B1 I think. Should get it to 3Ghz.

Anyways maybe they are doing another price cut because they have too many in stock? You know, supply and demand. I mean it's better to sell it below the cost it takes to make it than just not selling it at all.
 


Intel lost big time when they released the Core 2 Duo Extreme. Their Pentium 4's didn't sell much after its release. You saw this reflected in all the top ten CPU lists throughout the web. Intel shot themselves in the foot.

Intel chips are more expensive because they cost more to produce. A vast majority of people do not care about over clocking. They care mostly about PRICE.

"AMD captured a 52 percent share of the U.S. retail desktop market in September, topping Intel's 46 percent share, according to market research firm Current Analysis, which is based in San Diego, California."

http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/10/14/HNamdtopsintel_1.html

AMD isn't losing anything... they're gaining more market share from Intel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
enigma, you might want to recheck your link, because its outdated by 2 years.

BTW, Intel's chip are much much cheaper to produce than AMD ones, because AMD uses SOI, while Intel uses bulk.
 
The extremists will crow, the fanboys will fan, but the average AMD consumer wins.

Speculation is like balogna, it is cheap to make and spoils very quickly.
 
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