News AMD quietly launches Radeon RX 7400 8GB budget gaming GPU — RDNA 3 goes another rung lower on the ladder

[Admin]

AMD has launched the Radeon RX 7400 for budget gamers and the Radeon Pro W7400 for workstation users.

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[Amdlova]

It's always nice to have another 720P card

 

[King_V]

Definitely curious as to the performance on the 7400, relative to the 6400 and 6500, for old compact office-type PCs.

Given that 55w cards have previously been made that are single slot-and low profile (RX 6400, R7 250E/HD 7750), this should be a no-brainer for the 7400 as an available option.

 

[acadia11]

When they go low, we go even lower performance!

 

[COLGeek]

Seems like a smart move to fill that need of the MANY users who want something more than integrated graphics, but less than an expensive gaming oriented GPU.

These products are not targeted at the typical Tom's Hardware member.

 

[Pierce2623]

Realistically, if it’s like only $150, it would be a new high point for that segment. It’s WAY better than the rx 6400.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

As well as the non-gaming market for a media server or the like.

 

[Amdlova]

Tried to use the 2500k on youtube almost 100% processor usage to transcode the av1 codec and barely hiting the 30 fps.

These small graphics are a nice boost to an old machine.

 

[Notton]

If it's Navi33, it should support AV1 encode/decode, unlike the really crappy Navi24.
Unless AMD disabled those features, but we shall see.

 

[pug_s]

Definitely curious as to the performance on the 7400, relative to the 6400 and 6500, for old compact office-type PCs.

Given that 55w cards have previously been made that are single slot-and low profile (RX 6400, R7 250E/HD 7750), this should be a no-brainer for the 7400 as an available option.

I don't know if it can be compared to a 6400 or 6500. It looks like the same die as the 7600 but with maybe at most 50% of the cu's cut off so performance won't be that bad, no?

 

[palladin9479]

I suspect not many of these will be sold to end users and instead make their way into OEM and Office PC's. Things like MS Teams and Zoom perform much better with a real GPU installed for remote calls.

 

[jlake3]

I don't know if it can be compared to a 6400 or 6500. It looks like the same die as the 7600 but with maybe at most 50% of the cu's cut off so performance won't be that bad, no?

I think the comparison comes down more to the physical size, power consumption, and expected price. The RX 6400 is a 53 watt card and is available in half-height, half-length, single slot configuration with no external power connectors, and at 55 watts, we're expecting the same of the RX 7400.

Current half-height, single slot cards, without external power are the RX 6400 and A310. Nvidia only offers this in workstation cards at workstation prices.
Going up to half-height, dual-slot, but still no external power expands your options to include the A380 and RTX 3050 8gb
Going up again to half-height, dual-slot and allowing external power expands the field to include the RTX 4060, 5050, and 5060.

 

[jg.millirem]

The Radeon RX 7400 and Radeon Pro W7400 are based on AMD's Navi 33 (codenamed Hotpink Bonefish) silicon, which is likely the reason why the company decided to roll these out quietly without any fanfare.

Because the codename is so embarrassing?

 

[King_V]

I think the comparison comes down more to the physical size, power consumption, and expected price. The RX 6400 is a 53 watt card and is available in half-height, half-length, single slot configuration with no external power connectors, and at 55 watts, we're expecting the same of the RX 7400.

Exactly the point I was making.
This, by the way, is the R7 250E (Sapphire called it an R7 250 Low Profile, for some reason). It's in my now i7-4790S-powered Dell Inspiron 3647 Small Desktop. Fan is conveniently right at the vent-holes in the case.

As I recall, the 250E, a rebranded HD 7750, was rated at 55W vs 60W for the non-E, but apparently performed a hair better than the non-E (one had the advantage in clock speed, vs the other in memory speed - it's been a few years, and my memory is rusty)

Because the codename is so embarrassing?

Oh yeah? Well, I'm gonna form a trash-punk band, and we're gonna be called Hotpink Bonefish. We're gonna be at the Whiskey-a-Rotgut all week, PLAY IT LOUD $@(&ers!!!

 

[RedBear87]

Seems like a smart move to fill that need of the MANY users who want something more than integrated graphics, but less than an expensive gaming oriented GPU.

These products are not targeted at the typical Tom's Hardware member.

Isn't an APU, something like an 8700G, a better investment for that kind of users? This thing might be marginally more powerful on paper, TPU even "estimates" for the W7400 performances at the level of a 3050 8GB, which might not be that bad at the right price, but if you're not going to use it for gaming, even something closer to a 1650 might do just as well for productivity. I mean, the small dGPUs of the MX series have died on laptops for a reason...

 

[COLGeek]

Isn't an APU, something like an 8700G, a better investment for that kind of users? This thing might be marginally more powerful on paper, TPU even "estimates" for the W7400 performances at the level of a 3050 8GB, which might not be that bad at the right price, but if you're not going to use it for gaming, even something closer to a 1650 might do just as well for productivity. I mean, the small dGPUs of the MX series have died on laptops for a reason...

Maybe, if building a new system. What about the users that have older, perfectly good systems, even for Win 11, that they want a smidge more performance with?

As I said, the target buyers for these products are not your typical TH user.

 

[usertests]

Isn't an APU, something like an 8700G, a better investment for that kind of users? This thing might be marginally more powerful on paper, TPU even "estimates" for the W7400 performances at the level of a 3050 8GB, which might not be that bad at the right price, but if you're not going to use it for gaming, even something closer to a 1650 might do just as well for productivity. I mean, the small dGPUs of the MX series have died on laptops for a reason...

I can pick up a perfectly functional desktop in the $80-200 range (clearance/refurb prebuilts or office PCs), plop a low profile 40-75W card in, and get a better experience for less money. Tom's review found the 8700G to be slower than the GTX 1650, which is about on the level of the RX 6400.

This RX 7400 may be faster than the 6500 XT and 3050 6GB, with 8 GB of VRAM instead of 4-6 GB that is common in <75W cards. GTX 1650 has 4 GB. For all the talk of moving the low-end beyond 8 GB, this PCIe slot-powered segment needs to move to 8 GB.

The problem is that this card appears to be OEM-only. Unless there are a lot of them made, it won't be cheap on ebay anytime soon.

If AMD made a ~70W card based on Navi 44, with 24-28 CUs and 8 GB, it could easily be 50% faster than this one, and any future Strix/Gorgon Point desktop APUs would not come close to catching up to it. But if they don't make it, we can't buy it.

Edit: Oh yeah, a Navi 44 one would have FSR4 support too.

 

[adamXpeter]

Interesting, everything is less but the transistor count is the same. Do we count dead circuits, too?

 

[Crispy Bearcon]

I just bought an rx6400 for a tiny mobile gaming pc with hardware i have lying around... i will send back the rx6400 so hopefully i can buy the rx7400 in a few month.

My original plan was hoping for a low profile rx 9060 non xt.

 

[beyondlogic]

7400 xt is actually a fairly big jump if it can support 8gb and have 28 vs 16 from a 6500xt and run of the pci slot power that to me is quite the achievement.

 

[usertests]

I just bought an rx6400 for a tiny mobile gaming pc with hardware i have lying around... i will send back the rx6400 so hopefully i can buy the rx7400 in a few month.

My original plan was hoping for a low profile rx 9060 non xt.

Careful. We have no idea if the RX 7400 will be easy to get at a reasonable price.

Navi 44 would be best, if you require <75W and they end up making one. But given how long it took for the RX 7400 to appear, this market segment could continue to be badly neglected.

 

[Crispy Bearcon]

Careful. We have no idea if the RX 7400 will be easy to get at a reasonable price.

Navi 44 would be best, if you require <75W and they end up making one. But given how long it took for the RX 7400 to appear, this market segment could continue to be badly neglected.

yeah but even if it takes a few month i will bide my time not waiting for it if i am still in legal window to give the rx6400 back. i mean the build i use is just a fun build for travel.

 

[skilly89]

This card was announced in aug. 2024 . That might be the reason for the "quietly launch"

 

[logainofhades]

Without a PCI-E connection, this card would be a perfect fit for the family OEM rig that has a kid wanting to play games with lighter system requirements like say Rocket League.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Interesting, everything is less but the transistor count is the same. Do we count dead circuits, too?

Yeah, transistor counts are for the full die, regardless of how cut down it is for the given GPU. From what I've seen anyway.