AMD Radeon HD 7990 Spotted at GDC 2013

[bustapr]

[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.[/citation]
people complained because the titan was mauled by the 690 in the same price range. this 7990 is direct competition to the 690 and will likely maul the titan as well. I do agree the price is bad, but its not nearly as bad a deal as the titan.

 

[sincreator]

[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.[/citation]

Well honestly, this card should be vastly superior to Titan(30-40%) so the price may be somewhat justified. Although I would of like to seen it in the $700-$800 range for stock units and $900-$1000 for the modified OC'ed versions.

 

[JonnyDough]

I'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!

NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?

In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.

 

[rmpumper]

[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.[/citation]

Titan is slower than $1000 690, 7990 will be faster. See the difference?

 

[billcat479]

I always wonder if a game (god forbid) is made from the start optimized for one card makes any other graphic card maker have a little bit harder time coming out with good drivers. Don't know but when I start up a game and boy are they a LOT of them advertizing Nvidia I do wonder if this could in any way have even the smallest effect here. Don't know but I think about this from time to time.

 

[tadej petric]

690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970

 

[youssef 2010]

[citation][nom]keith12[/nom]Couldn't AMD have used a pretty girl to hold it instead!!??? C'mon make an effort at least[/citation]

Man, get a life

 

[colson79]

[citation][nom]JonnyDough[/nom]I'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.[/citation]

Micro stuttering is an issue with multiple GPU setups in general and it also affects Nvidia cards. I run two 7970's myself and I personally don't notice any of the micro stutters people talk about. I just think some people are more sensitive to it than others.

 

[colson79]

[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.[/citation]

Titan cost as much as the Nvida 690 and was a lot slower, that why the price for Titan is ridiculous. Also the article stated no pricing information was release but they think it will be close to $1000. Since the Nvidia 690 is $999 I'd actually expect the 7990 to come in around $899 and be faster than the 690. It also comes in with 6 GB of Ram compared to 4 GB on the 690. It will be a much better value than the Nvidia card.

 

[quangluu96]

Hm, maybe NVidia just come out the 700's series? and force 7990 price down? That would be a bad day for AMD, but i doubt since it's early for the next gen. Maybe if it's in the 600-800$ range I might try my first AMD gpu 😀 with the 7990

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]tadej petric[/nom]690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970[/citation]

the 690 got competition from nvidia, the titan.
dual gpu preformance without the downside of dual gpus

 

[rmpumper]

[citation][nom]tadej petric[/nom]690 is getting competition. But it think that 2*680 is better than 2*7970[/citation]
You think wrong. Just google cf 7950 vs sli 680. Even cf 7950 is faster in most games (up to 150%) while sli 680 wins only in Skyrim and when PhysX is enabled.

 

[shero]

I am in anxious about the Future, in the future how many pixel are increase No idea.

 

[JonnyDough]

[citation][nom]JonnyDough[/nom]I'm so torn right now over AMD/NV cards. On one hand, AMD has driven costs down I want them to remain a competitor in all markets they are currently in. That said, they DO have some stuttering/driver issues still - and I'd really love to see my old HD4890 card drivers updated. Sure it's an older card, that doesn't mean it isn't still a viable gaming card. It will run most stuff!NVidia has crappy naming schemes (confusing as all hell) and they LOVE to gouge us on pricing. At what point do profit margins become downright silly?In the end I want two things. I want an affordable piece of hardware, and I want my game to run properly. I don't care about fancy marketing, or even about how the card looks really. Heck, I'd be good with a black box and a couple of LEDs I can choose the color of. Hmm, now there's an idea. Nobody has done that yet.[/citation]

Micro stuttering is an issue with multiple GPU setups in general and it also affects Nvidia cards. I run two 7970's myself and I personally don't notice any of the micro stutters people talk about. I just think some people are more sensitive to it than others.

I think it has to do more with the application that is running. It all depends on the game. Even with single card setups, I have noticed some stuttering in TF2 on a single AMD card at times. I believe that non-vertical sync tearing could probably be eliminated as well, but that may be up to the monitor companies to solve that one. We need standards. Standards standards standards.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]somebodyspecial[/nom]Where are all the people who cried over the titan price of $1000? Shouldn't a ton of you be whining about AMD's ridiculous price now too?...ROFL.No matter, it's just dumb to say it in either company's case, but just saying.[/citation]

$1000 is a bad price for Titan. It's not too bad for a Radeon 7990 just like it's not too bad for a GTX 690.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]the 690 got competition from nvidia, the titan. dual gpu preformance without the downside of dual gpus[/citation]

Titan isn't anywhere near as fast as the GTX 690 in most situations. It's only dual-GPU performance if you compare it to something like two GTX 660 cardss or maybe two GTX 660 Ti cards.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]JonnyDough[/nom]I think it has to do more with the application that is running. It all depends on the game. Even with single card setups, I have noticed some stuttering in TF2 on a single AMD card at times. I believe that non-vertical sync tearing could probably be eliminated as well, but that may be up to the monitor companies to solve that one. We need standards. Standards standards standards.[/citation]

Micro-stutter only happens with multi-GPU arrays and us usually only noticeably bad with lower end arrays and/or dual-GPU arrays, especially from older generations. The current generations are a lot better about it even with their lower end cards and are generally excellent, especially with the top-end cards. There are some types of stutter than can happen on single-GPU cards, but they're not micro-stutter.

It is true that it has a lot to do with the game that is running and to an extent, even some of the settings, granted there are many other factors even up to some of the hardware, other software, and firmware.

 

[JonnyDough]

Thank you for reiterating everything I said.

 

[blazorthon]

Thank you for reiterating everything I said.

Assuming that you're referring to me, I didn't reiterate everything that you said.

 

[sanilmahambre]

I would prefer Titan if 7990 costs me over a $1000

 

[actionjksn]

At a $1000 I would still choose the Titan over this card or the GTX690. Because the performance on the Titan is still very high even though it's not as high as the dual GPU configurations. it still gets a very high level of performance without any of the downsides of the Dual GPU configs. Like scaling issues on certain games and micro stutter.

Plus after the second GPU you start getting seriously diminishing return on investment. The third GPU gives quite a bit less of a performance increase than you got with the second one, and with the fourth GPU it gets even worse.

A $1000 graphics card is way out of my budget [I would have to find a new wife] But if I were to spend that much I would get the Titan and run that beast for about a couple of years and by then I could get a second one for less money and it would make a great bang for my buck upgrade. It's actually how I do it anyway. I buy the most expensive card I can afford, run it for a couple years or so and then get a second one at a much cheaper price. It gives you a nice performance increase for a good price, because the card is outdated by then and can be bought on the cheap. Plus by then the drivers are very mature and the games have been patched pretty well by that time too.

I think most people would be pretty happy with frame rates on an overclocked Titan, even with a really high resolution setup. I know I would. Even though either of the dual GPU cards handily beat the performance of the Titan, they're still too close in performance for me to choose the Dual GPU configs. Especially if you overclock it. If there were no such thing as micro stutter or scaling issues then I would obviously choose one of the dual cards. I'm not against dual GPU's or anything, it's what I have now. But if the performance is in the same ballpark between a single or dual setup then I will choose single. And the performance is at least in the same ballpark between the 7990, GTX690 and Titan.

 

[blazorthon]

At a $1000 I would still choose the Titan over this card or the GTX690. Because the performance on the Titan is still very high even though it's not as high as the dual GPU configurations. it still gets a very high level of performance without any of the downsides of the Dual GPU configs. Like scaling issues on certain games and micro stutter.

Plus after the second GPU you start getting seriously diminishing return on investment. The third GPU gives quite a bit less of a performance increase than you got with the second one, and with the fourth GPU it gets even worse.

A $1000 graphics card is way out of my budget [I would have to find a new wife] But if I were to spend that much I would get the Titan and run that beast for about a couple of years and by then I could get a second one for less money and it would make a great bang for my buck upgrade. It's actually how I do it anyway. I buy the most expensive card I can afford, run it for a couple years or so and then get a second one at a much cheaper price. It gives you a nice performance increase for a good price, because the card is outdated by then and can be bought on the cheap. Plus by then the drivers are very mature and the games have been patched pretty well by that time too.

I think most people would be pretty happy with frame rates on an overclocked Titan, even with a really high resolution setup. I know I would. Even though either of the dual GPU cards handily beat the performance of the Titan, they're still too close in performance for me to choose the Dual GPU configs. Especially if you overclock it. If there were no such thing as micro stutter or scaling issues then I would obviously choose one of the dual cards. I'm not against dual GPU's or anything, it's what I have now. But if the performance is in the same ballpark between a single or dual setup then I will choose single. And the performance is at least in the same ballpark between the 7990, GTX690 and Titan.

Actually, triple GPU scaling is usually pretty with modern games, hardware, and drivers. Quad GPU scaling still often isn't, but can be and it might improve more in the future.

Titan may be in the same ballpark as the 690 and such, but only barely. It's still much slower. Overclocking, as of yet, has not been shown to improve it's situation AFAIK.

I also doubt that its price will go down too well later on. Short production run absolutely top end cards like it oftentimes don't go down in price nearly as quickly as the rest of their generation. That's part of what can give any reason for buying the top-end dual-GPU cards, IE the return on investment from selling them later can be pretty good because they tend to depreciate in value slowly compared to the lower end cards.