Would the 8700k cost what it does today without Ryzen? They would still be feeding us quad cores on the same 14nm process.
Lol can you just imagine intel bringing todays lineup out back in the days as haswell CPUs?
Oh the carnage, just imagine a 6/12 haswell at 4.7Ghz for $370.00 against the FX-9590, AMD would just close up shop right then and there...good thing intel didn't do something like that.
That's an interesting way to look at it - i.e. Intel threw AMD a bone by NOT releasing CPUs multiple generations ahead of AMD even though they easily could have, which allowed AMD to remain competitive and not go bankrupt.
The counter argument is that sans any genuine competition, Intel has been slumming it and raking in bucket loads of cash by effectively rebranding decade old CPUs with minor tweaks and seeing stock prices soar. Wonder which is true (it's pretty obvious imo)?