[SOLVED] AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Overheating

[Chill_One]

Hi all,

Hoping for some assistance with my CPU that is driving me crazy in trying to find a solution. I have a pre-built gaming PC that is about a year and a half old, I've had no heat issues with it until a week ago. While playing a game (FF14 Online) I noticed that my CPU was beginning to run very hot 95-100 Celsius and it hasn't seemed to recover since then. Now my CPU runs around 85 Celsius during bios and just increases from there until I get too worried and shut it down (highest was 113 Celsius). I've looked around for similar issues and so far I have checked for any plastic left inside, reapplied -thermal paste (Kryonaut), made sure screws were tightened on CPU cooler, air-sprayed and wiped the fans/dust filters, and updated BIOS.
Build:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GPU - RTX 2070 Super
Mobo - ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming
PSU - Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W Gold
Cooling - NZXT Kraken M22
Case - NZXT H510 Elite w/ 2 fans in the front and 1 on the top
Ryzen Master Pic

https://imgur.com/plG0HmE

View: https://imgur.com/plG0HmE

 

[Darkbreeze]

Where is your M22 mounted?

Are the case fans you indicated as being installed, 2 in the front and 1 in the top, including the fan for the M22 or in addition to that fan? What direction is the airflow for each of the installed fans?

 

[Koekieezz]

Hi all,

Hoping for some assistance with my CPU that is driving me crazy in trying to find a solution. I have a pre-built gaming PC that is about a year and a half old, I've had no heat issues with it until a week ago. While playing a game (FF14 Online) I noticed that my CPU was beginning to run very hot 95-100 Celsius and it hasn't seemed to recover since then. Now my CPU runs around 85 Celsius during bios and just increases from there until I get too worried and shut it down (highest was 113 Celsius). I've looked around for similar issues and so far I have checked for any plastic left inside, reapplied -thermal paste (Kryonaut), made sure screws were tightened on CPU cooler, air-sprayed and wiped the fans/dust filters, and updated BIOS.
Build:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600
GPU - RTX 2070 Super
Mobo - ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming
PSU - Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650W Gold
Cooling - NZXT Kraken M22
Case - NZXT H510 Elite w/ 2 fans in the front and 1 on the top
Ryzen Master Pic

https://imgur.com/plG0HmE

View: https://imgur.com/plG0HmE

try to use HWInfo for temperature measuring.

 

[Darkbreeze]

There is nothing wrong with using Ryzen master. It is SPECIFICALLY intended for use with Ryzen processors. HWinfo and Core Temp are fine for temperature monitoring, but for Ryzen CPUs, Ryzen master is as well.

 

[Chill_One]

Where is your M22 mounted?

Are the case fans you indicated as being installed, 2 in the front and 1 in the top, including the fan for the M22 or in addition to that fan? What direction is the airflow for each of the installed fans?

The M22 is mounted towards the back. I didn't include it in the fan count, here are some pics for placement and airflow. I'm a newbie at this but I'm assuming the 2 in the front are inward and the other 2 are outward airflow?

https://imgur.com/zefshTv

View: https://imgur.com/zefshTv

https://imgur.com/p88CrwV

View: https://imgur.com/p88CrwV

 

[Chill_One]

try to use HWInfo for temperature measuring.

HWInfo was showing the same temp readings as Ryzen Master

 

[Third-Eye]

The M22 is mounted towards the back.

The pump on the AIO is likely failing or dead, because the radiator was mounted with the tubes at the top instead of the bottom. Over time, any possible air at the top of the radiator loop is causing the pump to work "harder" and making it wear out faster than it's normally expected life span. Having the tubes mounted at the bottom and below the pump means only water is flowing through the tubes and any air that may be in the loop rises to the top of the radiator.

 

[Phaaze88]

Air is probably making its way in the pump at this point.
M22 is exceptionally bad among the pump-in-radiator models because of the 120mm rad:
-If the pump is higher than the cpu block, it fails relatively quick; pump should stay immersed in fluid.
-If the cpu block is higher than the pump, the pump lasts longer, but it's performance is worse, because air will collect in the cpu block; that air will disrupt thermal transfer from the cold plate to the liquid.

Get a new cooler and trash the M22.

 

[Chill_One]

I see, new cooler it is then. Would another liquid cooler be a bad move then because of the placement inside of the case? Any recommended brands for air coolers?

 

[Phaaze88]

The biggest weakness of NZXT's H500 series is that both the intakes and exhausts are restricted.
This is problematic for users with high power consuming cpus and gpus, like the i7s and RTX xx80; not only can you struggle to keep both cpu and gpu coolers fed with air, but you also can't eject the heat coming off of them out of the chassis as effectively.

I say get an air cooler and call it a day.

 

[guywhoneedshelp22]

Hey, not sure if this helps or not but, it worked for me!

1. Check your Power Plan in the Control Panel
2. if it's set on High performance, etc. then set it to balanced

If this doesn't work ^^ try these

Best fix that worked for me :

Do the following as mentioned before and click "change plan settings" then go to "change advanced power settings" after which you want to do the following: Click "processor power management" after that, click "Maximum processor state" after which, set it for 100% to 99%, this won't impact your performance but for some reason fixes the overheating and also make sure that you go to "PCI Express" and change "Link State Power Management" to "Off"

if any of these helped, let me know!

 

[kurdtnz]

click "Maximum processor state" after which, set it for 100% to 99%, this won't impact your performance

Unfortunately this will impact performance, setting max processer state from 100% to 99% will stop the cpu from boosting to 4200mhz and it will stay at its base clock of 3600mhz. As others have said, it seems the problem here is the aio and they need a new cooler.

 

[Koekieezz]

i'd rather choose a good heatsink tower rather than going on another cheap aio.

 

[Darkbreeze]

My point exactly. What worked initially is likely not working now, because a year and a half later you've killed the AIO. Granted, not YOUR fault, since it was a prebuilt, but that does not change the fact and YES there are, not just a lot, but practically ALL prebuilt companies, doing it wrong. As seen here.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk


For that CPU, I agree with Phaaze, and it's my usual recommendation, that you don't need an AIO. A half decent air cooler will do BETTER than that little AIO you have installed. By a fair margin probably.

Any of these would be more than enough.

Below is my list of preferred CPU AIR coolers, also known as Heatsink fans (HSF).

Noctua NH-D14 (Replace stock fans with NF-A14 industrialPPC 2000rpm)
Noctua NH-D15/D15 SE-AM4
Noctua NH-D14 (With original fans)
Thermalright Silver arrow IB-E Extreme
Cryorig R1 Ultimate or Universal
Be Quiet Dark rock Pro 4
Noctua NH-D15s
Thermalright Legrand Macho RT
Phanteks PH-TC14PE (BK,BL, OR or RD)
Deepcool Assassin III
Noctua NH-U12A
Thermalright Macho X2
Thermalright Macho rev. C
Thermalright Macho rev.B
Thermalright ARO-M14G (Ryzen only)
SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425
Thermalright Macho direct
Deepcool Assassin II
Noctua NH-U14S
Thermalright true spirit 140 Direct
Cryorig H5


It may not be obvious, but is probably worth mentioning, that not all cooler models will fit all CPU sockets as aftermarket coolers generally require an adapter intended for use with that socket. Some coolers that fit an AMD platform might not fit a later AMD platform, or an Intel platform. Often these coolers come with adapters for multiple types of platforms but be sure to verify that a specific cooler WILL work with your platform before purchasing one and finding out later that it will not.

 

[Chill_One]

Thank you guys for all the help! I got a new cooler with a heatsink tower and now my PC is back down to 40 degrees celsius on idle. Will run some games next to see where it's at but looking way better.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Right on man.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Good deal. I’m using a vetroo v5, if you look it up jayz2cents had a video on it, I usually idle around that as well and under cinebench usually top out in the low 70s.